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Federal Government workers/contractors, Corporations, Institutions, all mandating vaccination or else. "Follow the science"

Federal Government workers/contractors, Corporations, Institutions, all mandating vaccination or else. "Follow the science" | PSST; HAVE YOU NOTICED? THEY QUIT FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE; Science; The Vaccinated can; contract and spread; covid as much as; the unvaccinated; AND THEY'RE STILL DOING MANDATES? | image tagged in psst spiderman,peter parker reading a book,covid-19,biden,big pharma,government | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
325 views 3 upvotes Made by JAWILLI 3 years ago in politics
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False. Taking the vaccine reduces the chance of infecting others more than those who are unvaccined and infected.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/verify/can-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people-spread-covid19-the-same/65-63870429-2e11-44bd-aa57-9ea8a23cb205

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html#:~:text=%E2%80%A2%20Fully%20vaccinated%20people%20with,the%20virus%20to%20others.
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No not false. I would concede that it is mostly true. Yes I have read all the info with similar info. The one thing that is showing as an edge with the vaccinated is that they may shed the virus quicker but still carry the same viral load.

Prior to Delta surge studies Scientists and Government had a edge on full justification for possible mandating vaccines or at least businesses (though of course I think is completely wrong too). Vaccines meant it would be extremely rare to contract and them spread the virus.

And NOW the Government is forcing businesses with 100 or more employees to mandate vaccinations or weekly testing (cost passed on to employee).
They did quit following the science if science. If a vaccinated employee is just as contagious in the first 7 days then they already did the spreading.

What Biden just announced yesterday is completely overstepping and goes against what he said prior about mandating vaccinations.

Wrong wrong wrong. The only reason Democrats won't put up a fight (in my opinion)is because of who is mandating. If it were Trump I would imagine, they would not have it. Even the current VP made it political prior to the election. "If Trump tells me to get the vaccine, I'm not getting it *cackle cackle"
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"No not false. I would concede that it is mostly true."

Doublespeak. It is either true or false that "The Vaccinated can contract and spread covid as much as the unvaccinate"

It is false. They cannot spread as much as the unvaccinated.

The unvaccinated have a less chance of catching the virus and a smaller window to spread it than vaccinated. That is what the data is currently showing.

"And NOW the Government is forcing businesses with 100 or more employees to mandate vaccinations or weekly testing (cost passed on to employee)."

"If it were Trump I would imagine, they would not have it."

"If Trump tells me to get the vaccine, I'm not getting it *cackle cackle" (If the doctors and medical professionals tell us to take it, I'll be the first in line to take it.) <- funny how this part is always left out. Contextually speaking she was talking about following the science rather than government mandates, ironically.

Regardless, everything else you stated is irrelevant to your main point that they're not following the science. They very clearly are. The problem is the bureaucracy sometimes moves too slowly to the flow of the data. At this time, vaccines and masks are our best bet. And at some point, with so much resistance and rising cases/deaths, it becomes necessary to mandate them.
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I was making fun of the so called fact checkers that use mostly true, mostly false, missing context bull crap.

So for 7 days the unvaccinated and vaccinated, with covid spread the same.

I know the full line of Kamala. I watched the debate. I watch as much as I can. She made it political. They all did. They aren't following the science anymore by saying it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated and it's all their falt.

Bureaucracys are slow to implement? Hey. The data changed. Slow ur roll people.

DOJ gave their opinion that Employers can mandate vaccines. But...King Biden thinks he can Mandate private business and their employees to take the vaccine. People that cried "Trump is a dictator" aren't crying "Biden is a dictator"? Surprising.

If an employee takes the vaccine due to mandate and they go to hospital due to myocardatis, what happens if the employee wants the employer to cover the hospital bill? Someone in my company had this happen and Dr later said it was most likely due to this.
Or an employer mandates the vaccine but they still get covid and go to the hospital? "Hey cover my bill or I'll sue?" That doesn't even talk abt death.
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I'm sorry you can't handle facts and that your meme is in direct contrast to them.

The fact is that the vaccinated do not contract and spread covid as much as the unvaccinate. Saying otherwise is a lie, regardless of context.

The CDC is still assessing data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit the virus. If they cannot, then that means that only vaccinated people, who are infected, who show symptoms can spread the disease. And their window of spreading is still significantly reduced than someone who is unvaccinated.

I will not be baited into discussing anything outside my main concern with where you are in error.

If you cannot accept the fact you are in error then you are being intellectually dishonest. As of now, I have no incentive to continue this conversation into the tangential areas from which you wish to retreat and discuss.

So, you can either continue trolling or grow up.

Your choice.
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Trolling? No. I can't say that I ever "troll". Who is more likely to get it? Unvaccinated it seems. But once either group has it, they can spread it equally. Only exception is after 7 days the vaccinated appear to shed it.

That is honest. That's exactly what the science is saying.
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Trolls can't say they're trolling. :) What would the fun be in that?

And if you've never trolled, which (in my opinion) I respectfully doubt, then you should. Although, this being the politics page, it's best to do not do that here.

Trolling is an excellent way to get attention but, it rarely results in anything productive.

I've yet to see any studies where trolling reduces the cases or deaths of covid. Nor is it very inclusive in getting other people to understand your perspective, nor is it very informative in regards to facts.

However, trolling is quite excellent at relieving some of your personal frustrations and, indeed, entertaining a few people who are only in on the gag. However, in the end, it just makes the troll look like an ignorant idiot after time passes and the gag is long forgotten.
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