trump is a liar and that's the truth

im 13 bro

also just because this is the politics stream doesn't mean we can't be funny

The problem with the left is that they have been lying so long that they don't even know what truth is anymore. So if Trump said anything factual, like the sky is blue, the left with their "avanded" techniques would say it was green and call Trump a liar.

maybe, but we aren't that dumb

I'm not one of those people who look at any group of people or even the entire population and calls them dumb. I think there are all levels if intellect everywhere.

But lying is not the same thing is being dumb. Lying has nothing to do with intellect.

yes, i know that I'm saying that the democratic party might think that, but believing that would be dumb, and i don't think we are that dumb.

It is just really bugging me how Biden, Schumer and Pelosi are all lying their butts off about legislation that is being passed in red states to try to stop voter fraud. They are telling everyone that the right is trying to suppress the black and brown vote. That is so utterly and completely false. The only votes they are trying to suppress is multiple votes from the same person (which has been happening for decades) and votes from dead people (which has also been happening). This last election used COVID as an excuse to change laws to make voter fraud much much much easier to commit. These voter bills that Biden, Schumer and Pelosi are lying about are reversing those laws in the red states.

No one, ESPCIALLY based on race, is being prevented from voting. There is nothing in ANY of those bill that does that. Democrats are just out and out lying and hoping you don't read any of those bills to find out.

sadly its true, he lied over 20,000 time while in office

hears the proof, and it's from the Washington post, so you can't say much about it, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

its funny your rejecting facts from a major news website

yes, cuz it is a fact

i know, i just say those words so much it's just natural. if you have a problem with it then sorry, i wont call you it seesh

Hitler was also a painter, so nice proof man reaaaaaaal good

idk what this one is

Here’s a list of lies from Biden during his presidency, which was less than six months when the article was updated. Unlike your Washington Post article, that only reports a number, this article shows each lie in context.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/22/heres-the-full-list-of-every-lie-joe-biden-has-told-as-president/

Cue the automatic “that’s not a reliable source” defense.

You can claim that it shows Trump’s rate of lying is greater than Biden’s but the truth is, the Media embellishes its scrutiny of Republicans while reporting lies from the left as “misspoken” or “their opinion” or “their belief”. For example. Trump claims the election was stollen. The media reports it as “Trump’s lie”. But if Trump were a Democrat, they would report it as “Trump’s opinion”.

ok, don't believe the washington post, try watching the news almost any news station will say trump is a lair. yes i know Biden has lied, but not very much.

ok, your list is mostly correct, but i have a few doubts. many of the examples come from fox news, and nearly everyone o fox news are hard core trump supporters meaning they will back trump up at all costs. also, trump has paid fox news to make him look good. sometimes fox news is honest, it's just hard to tell if they are truly reliable.

“trump has paid fox news to make him look good”
Another lie? Where’s your proof of this?

By your logic, since most everyone on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS are Biden supporters, they back Biden at any cost. And since there are so many more Biden’s supporters in the media, it only makes sense that they would report that Trump lies more than Biden.

CNN literally exposed trump for paying fox, it literally watched it live where they talked about it. also, CNN has never shown evidence of picking sides, the tell the truth, even when Biden has lied/done something bad. CNN calls him out. the only reason it seems like all these news stations hate trump, it's just if they have to be honest, then of course they are gonna call out trump because he was such a horrible president (except his immigration polices, those were actually good) that if they were being honest would have no choice but to talk about it a lot because trump always did bad things that hurt the country.

CNN is a know propaganda outlet for the left. In general, the new media is much, much more forgiving of the left and quick to point fingers at the right. This has been going on since before you were born. Ever since Fox News started showing the other side, the leftist media has been attacking them trying to discredit Fox because it exposes their leftist bias. Since then, other sources (mostly online and talk radio) have also exposed the biases of the MSM.

not just CNN and MSN, there are hundreds of news stations out there that will say trump is ling, tons of online articles that say he is ling, and they say this because they are honest people. what is happening here just seems like you are saying whenever something is telling the truth it's bias. like for example, if trump won the election, would you say there is fraud still. if someone exposes trump would say they are ling and have a bias. it just seems like whenever someone says something negative about trump/anything that makes him look bad you call it bias,but if someone said someone said something bad about Biden it's 100% the truth. see that seems to be more or less the mindset trump gave his hardcore supporters, because he knew that the people who really liked him would believe anything he says, so if he said he is god, some people might believe it.

Like I said. There are many more anti-trump (or any Republican for that matter) “news” sources out there. Still doesn’t prove that he lies any more than Democrats. It just means more sources have the same left-leaning biases and agendas.

like i said, they don't favor anyone, they. tell. the. truth. that is why so many are negative towards trump

I didn’t say I don’t believe the Washington Post. What I’m saying is, their report only lists a number of “misleading” statements but doesn’t even give any examples. What is misleading to some is truth to others. It’s too subjective to be considered a true indication of who lies more than the other.

if it gave examples the page would be too long fro anyone to read. but look up top 10 trump lies and then you will get examples, because they actually can write that. you can't write 30,000 examples and give a description for all of them, who would read all of that. also, the whole internet/ most news channels gives tons of examples. so just do some research yourself i f you don't believe me. and while i can see how you think it is hard to believe, i watch the news, and hear about it on MSN when i'm on my computer, so it maybe makes more sense to me, because i have seen countless articles and news stories about trump, so for me i can see how 30,000 lies makes sense.

“if it gave examples the page would be too long fro anyone to read.”

There you go again failing to make your point. It said “examples” which doesn’t mean listing every one. The article that I shared listed about 40 examples of Biden’s lies. If Trump mislead 3K times, why couldn’t the NYP article include at least a few examples of what they consider “false” or “misleading” statements? Probably because it would show that most of them are so subjective they wouldn’t support the shock value that their report was trying to create.

I watch the news too and I watch more than the left-leaning MSM, including Fox News and other sources that people like you dismiss because they don’t support your hatred of Trump. I believe that Trump lies - just like all politicians do. What I don’t buy into is that he lies any more than Biden or Obama or any other Democrat that our biased media covers for.
The “countless articles and news stories about trump” is just an indication that there are more sources of anti-Trump rhetoric than the other way around. In other words, you’re being lied to.

this supports what i said, if it doesn't support trump, you just say it is bias. that's just part of trumps brainwashing.

😂 I don’t even like Trump. I think he’s an egotistical jerk. You attribute my pointing out the leftist media bias against him as being a Trump supporter. Talk about being brainwashed - You probably think anyone who doesn’t hate Trump and agree with all the BS the media reports about him is a diehard, MAGA, Trump supporter who thinks Biden stole the election.

Just goes to show, you have no argument. Try addressing the issue - widespread biased media - rather than just dismissing anyone who doesn’t hate Trump as brainwashed.

Do this as you watch and read the news. Notice how, in the rare cases when they have to admit to actual facts about conservative issues that fly in the face of the left, the MSM tends to prefix it with words like “controversial” or “disputed”. But when they report about liberal issues, it’s reported as fact even when it actually is unproven and controversial. Notice how newspaper reports tend to trumpet the leftist point of view in the headline and in the first few paragraphs. If they do include a conservative rebuttal argument, it’s buried later in the article when most people have stopped reading. It’s subtle but it’s there nearly every time. But even those tactics are used less and less and the media finds more and more people don’t care about their bias and they just flat out lie without apology. It’s sad to see young people like you getting raised on false news. That’s why so many people like you believe things like Socialism is good and Capitalism is bad. You haven’t been taught the real history of this country and you’ve been groomed to the point that you actually vote for politicians to take more of our money in taxes - thinking it’s gonna somehow benefit you.

i learned the history a while ago, it's just this country is so divided, that i assumed by some of your comments that you like trump. i am really sorry. you are right, i sound brainwashed, i promise i'm not but will admit i sounded like it. i know this country s history, i guess i just sounded like a crazy far to the left person. i am on the left, but not very far to the left. sorry for jumping to conclusions tho.

when it comes to people who like trump, you need use far to the left evidence to convince them, so that's why i sounded cray

also i think capitalism is good, socialism is not very good, i try not to get drowned in the news like my uncle, but i do like to know what goes on. hopefully this clears everything up.

Yes he lies a lot, but so is biden

yeah, biden isn't great, but hes better than trump

. . . at lying.

no, a better person than trump. Biden is not a better liar than Trump

So, what you’re saying is, Biden’s can’t even lie better than Trump? That’s pathetic.

no what i'm saying trump lies more than Biden

How do you know? Do you have polygraph test results, or are you just parroting propaganda from our dishonest media?

the media may be dishonest, but not the Washington Post. every time he spoke that was on TV, they counted all the false or misleading claims he said formed a lie counter. they did the same thing every time he spoke, and from when he was elected, they said he has just over 30,000 lies/false or misleading claims. here is the link so you can see for yourself. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

Oh, so now the Washington Post is the one and only honest new source. Just remember that the next time someone uses one of their articles to debunk your opinion.

The problem with their approach is, someone had to determine if what he said was misleading or not. That’s subjective and not really a true count of “lies”.