Checking a source requires looking at the actual data yourself.

You still think masks work and say you think for yourself. Pathetic.

You are like Bill O'Reilly here. You put a bunch of nonsense that most conservatives don't believe with things that are more questionable. "Ohhh my God look at what these idiots believe!" More like look what a disingenuous liar you are.

Still explain to me how after mandating masks and near 100 percent compliance how did covid grow exponentially worse? Explain to me why Fauci himself said masks from stores were pretty useless. Show me a test on the usefulness of cloth masks in the real world. Tell me how your masks keeps in droplets when you touch your face 30 times an hour normally, with the mask on probably more and right in the germ zone. Tell me how you justify forcing people to wear masks every day for 8 hours a day to protect them from a 1 in 10000 mortality rate flu, mostly for the old, is worth the risks of wearing something on your breathing hole and blocking your vision. Covid can live on cloth for 2 days and you think that wearing something on yiur germ holes is better and not worse. You never think about shit and just parrot what you are told to believe so f**k off you brain dead control freak moron who lives unemployed in your mother's womb.

i absolutely refuse to call you an idiot, Skully. it would blatantly violate the TOS and I'm pretty happy with my performance on that so far. instead i'll answer you as politely as i can and let you come to a new conclusion on that question yourself.

so: i didn't say 'look at what most conservatives believe', although altogether you do seem to believe in a pretty wide *range* of crazy. in fact, in my rare moments of tenderness for you all, i say that most conservatives i know are reasonable people who think reasonable things that, while reasonable, happen to be wrong or based in relatively subjective judgment. what i did say in the meme is that the listed specific false claims appear in this stream and i plainly imply, i think, that they are by no means outliers of what one sees here on a daily basis. when you suggest that i say that the most conservatives believe them, well you are plainly wrong since i plainly didn't say that. another thing people on this stream like to do is put words in other people's mouths and then tell them how stupid those words are. since the premise is false, it doesn't work as a meaningful argument.

now about masks: masks were not mandated in most places in the first half of 2020, so 'near 100 percent compliance' (even if it were true, which it certainly wasn't in Georgia) in places where it was mandated couldn't be very effective. if your bathtub had 50 leaks and you plugged most of them, it still wouldn't be a bathtub.

why did Fauci say common masks were pretty useless? he said they were useless for protecting the wearer. their purpose was always to reduce the risk to other people from the coughs and sneezes of infected people wearing the mask. the masks plainly don't prevent the expulsion of droplets, they simply reduce the immediate range. i saw from the comments of many people on this stream that they didn't understand that. i explained it several times, but people like to believe what they believe. now that i've explained it again, will you understand? i'm not optimistic. i think you're committed to your viewpoint.

the general population was asked to wear masks to save lives. if you only care about your own life, or you think that older people matter less than yourself, then i could see how this would seem pointless to you. 'sorry Mom, i'd wear a mask but it's inconvenient.' she must be so proud.

i don't think you got any of this but i wrote it out anyway for other people who are smarter than you.

The places masks were mandated were worse off after the mask mandates. They were followed in public near 100 percent. I'm sure you think people in Georgia are going to New Jersey and New York infecting everyone lol. Great use of your brain.

You didn't touch what I said about touching your face, because you have no answer for it. Your didn't touch the no tests on masks. You didn't touch on covid lasting 2 days on cloth. People didn't wash their masks every 4 hours. Now if you touch you mask and stuff and others do the same you now have someone else's covid on your mask for two days. But that's OK because you mentioned droplets. Whoopedy doo. Pathetic. Again sheep like you worrying about masks got old people killed. You created a false sense of security while they dropped like flies. I would rather get covid with the rest of the under 60 crowd so that herd immunity was achieved but that's too difficult for you since they didn't say that on the news. You want it both ways. We failed but we were right. That's low level brainpower.

I guess since you like killing old people so much you have to hold on to the masks worked spiel. Just like the troops in Iraq didn't die for nothing so keep sending troops. Your cognitive dissonance is very wrong and very destructive. Not only is wearing masks useless you would enforce them to ensure your identity of the moral outstanding. See a shrink.

I agree with you and look forward to Trump being reinstated in Jan 6, i mean August!

... but the my pillow guy said....

lol i seriously do respect his opinion on what he knows: pillows

his pillows get a 2.1 out of 10. I guess that is good, right?

lol opinions vary i guess. maybe better than 2.1 but certainly not a 9.

And MyPillow received a consumer rating of 2.12 out of 5 stars on the product review platform SiteJabber.

Let's see....

1. fauci emails say as much
2. I'll give you that one - it takes a special talent to have a net worth less than your annual salary.....somehow she did it. $100k
3. it's been proven that the NIH funded the wuhan lab GOF research, in congressional testimony.....that sounds like collusion to me.
4. BLM sets a lot of fires - buildings, cars, they don't care.....it's been on the news almost nonstop for 4 years.
5. Stephan Cannon, looting during a BLM riot, shot and killed David Dorn - I'm not sure how you plan to blame whitey for that one.
6. That does sound silly
7. wouldn't that be nice
8. but Biden is stupid and Harris has managed to laugh her way out of all responsibility, they both prove it daily.

1. no they don't. they say what he has always maintained: that common masks are worn to protect others, not the wearer.
2. she can spend her money as she likes. can't you?
3. no it hasn't. it was shown that NIH funded the lab. NIH grants are recommended by panels of scientific reviewers. all fauci would have done was approve or not. and if the lab turns out to have misused the funding, that's not misconduct on fauci's part. but how would you prove they did?
4. looters loot and set fires while BLM protests. that doesn't mean the looters are BLM. evidence?
5. Cannon is charged with the murder, committed during BLM protests. again no proven connection.
6. it does.
7. it would.
8. Biden is not stupid, but his mistakes are always in the spotlight. Biden and Harris both have an especially tough job, doing the usual work of the White House AND cleaning up the crap of the previous four years. every day is chock full of responsibility. let's chat again in 2024.

well now i understand your difficulty. English is not your first language. what i said is what the email says. think harder and it will become clear.

The mandate that everyone, infected, not infected, asymptomatic - everyone must wear masks is refuted by his email. It's only effective for the infected to wear masks. They don't do anything for the rest of us.

you're getting there. now, how many infected people know that they're infected?

That doesn't change that masks don't do anything for anyone but the sick. You're arguing collectivism trumps individual rights.

You might be a criminal, so put on these handcuffs.

im arguing that a right is something you can choose to exercise or not, depending on how it affects other people's rights. like it or not, society is collective.

And yet the bill of rights protects the rights of the individual.

very good. now apply it in both directions.

it doesn't work in the other direction, because I'm not forcing you to do anything.

Your demand: Wear a mask
My demand: <404 not found>

i already "won" and you don't even realize it. you're using selfishness to justify your view. i didn't say you have to wear a mask and no one forced you to. the gov't recommended it. some retailers required it if you shop with them, which obviously you don't have to.

asking you to wear a mask to help save lives is not totalitarianism. it's implying that you recognize your responsibilities as a cooperative adult member of society. no one is accusing you of anything. they're saying wear a mask in case you are or become infected. if instead the gov't recommended you to wear a mask as needed, how many people would do it? i'd say not too many, but with lives at stake, there was no time to do that experiment.

I won the lesson (it wasn't really an argument) because you should admit that you can't force people to die or to stay at home because you have some preemptive Right of Convenience. still as i say, you almost got the message, so i'm not going to give up on you as i have had to with others.

btw, i always win. you'll get used to it ( ;

I've never seen you win, and I've been here longer than you.

including their rights to life and liberty?

You can't use your rights to take away my rights.

i was so pleased that you got this far, too. oh well. Rome wasn't built in a day. it does work in both directions because no one's rights trumps anyone else's. society operates on principles of collaboration and cooperation. you go the the store and expect there will be food and water and gas, etc., and the retailers provide that in exchange for cash. doctors and lawyers and awesome professors provide services, again in exchange for cash. people interact with non-professionals too, every day, in a way that benefits each other. 'i won't kill you if you don't kill me, okay?' 'well, okay.' or 'i'll take the kids on Tuesdays if you take them on Thursdays'. mutual benefits, mutual respect. see?

The right to breathe freely can be taken away at anytime because of health.

This is not how conservatives and libertarians or even most liberals choose to be governed. You have the right to stay home, the right to get the vaccine, the right to say whatever you want, you have the right to not be shot or stabbed. You do not have the right to be protected from disease. Period. You have the right to strengthen your immune system. But you can't make someone else mask, wash their hands, bathe, you can't even stop someone from killing their unborn child. Do you know why? You act so smart.

The right to your person's is an inalienable right. The right to life does not mean the right to be protected from the elements. Roe v Wade was decided on the right to your own medical choices. If you breathe on a cloth does it move? But surely wearing a mask don't restrict breathing! Magic! If my sight allowed me to see where to shoot should I wear a blindfold. Live in a box if you are so afraid of the world. You literally have to be nuts to argue that the world should mask up every time there is a novel flu. You do realize this happens every other year right. But you keep pretending that the strong must be muzzled for the weak. Your parasitic beliefs clearly point to the fact that you are a loser and need mommy to keep you safe and relevant.

No, it doesn't work. Forcing someone to wear a mask removes their right to self determination - you're advocating totalitarianism - the loss of individual freedom.

You're also accusing someone without evidence, and forcing them to accept punishment with no due process. It's, essentially, a forced medical procedure based on an accusation. They don't even go this far for KNOWN AIDS PATIENTS in California anymore - and AIDS is WAY more deadly than the wu-flu.

Your stumbling block in winning this argument is that you have no right to force anyone to do anything on your behalf. Until the Democrats manage to eliminate the filibuster - you never will.

i've got to work now so this is the final lesson for the day: it's way too early to trust your judgment.