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2 ups, 3y
In this stream you will easily be considered a Christian if you are believe in Christ and the scriptures. .

But you've meant whether you are considered saved or not is a different matter.

To me, you are if you trusted Christ alone for your salvation. What I mean by that is that if you believe you are saved by the works of Christ on the cross and not by your good works (obedience to the law - Romans 3:19-20?, Galatians 2:1-2, & 3:10-13) then you are saved.

Provided also that you believe in the Trinity (Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 48:16-17, & Matthew 28:19), and the Bible is God's word (Psalms 12:6 & 2 Peter 1:20-21).

I suggest you visit the following stream:
imgflip.com/m/Evangelicalism

There, you will learn more about your faith but start from the beginning.
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Christian is considered to mean that you believe in God, as well as Christ. Thereby, you would be considered Christian. I do not necessarily believe what you do (Roman Catholic), but the religions are similar enough for me to group them together (I'm aware that, as a Lutheran, you find my Gospel to be heresy, and therefore do not feel the same).
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So, looking through the comments, I have to say you are by no means a Lutheran. You are a Therapeutic Moralistic Deist. That is, you believe in a God who is active in our world and strives for our good, but He demands nothing of us. This is in direct contradiction to what the Bible says about God holding us accountable for our thoughts and actions, and commanding that we give all we are and have to serving Him. I think UniformVictor has already explained all the problems with these anti-biblical beliefs to you, so I won't get involved.
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Not anymore. Pure atheist. Religion is a bitch.
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Christianity is similar to Lutheran but not exactly.
There's a lot of the same beliefs, but we believe that the Holy Trinity are individual entities, instead of all just one, like Christians do.
Some of us believe "Hell" does not exist and everyone goes to heaven, but if your hell is staying with Jesus in the afterlife, then He will let you leave.
Etc.
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That isn't true Christianity. If you believe the Trinity doesn't exist, you blaspheme. If you believe everyone goes to heaven, you go against every word in the Bible. If you believe hell doesn't exist, you deny the Bible. You aren't actually a Christian if you believe that. You have a different religion, not one sanctioned by God.
1 up, 3y
I'm glad you began to point that out, I misunderstood him.
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I literally said i wasn't a Christian.
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I think I misunderstood you.

So you do not believe in the Trinity defined as "One God in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit"? Are you a Tritheist?
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And God is in other religions that would bring us into heaven. Christianity may be the rite of passage for you, but not everyone.
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I'm sorry, but that literally goes against everything in the Bible. That is not salvation. God is not in Islam, God is not in Hinduism, God is not in Buddhism. Jesus is the only way.
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But god is in Lutheran. And according to Christianity, anyone who believe in Christ is saved. so. I'm saved in Christianity even though I'm not Christian.
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Dude. Lutheran is a denomination of Christianity. You are just not wanting to identify as Christian, but if you believe in Christ, you are a Christian. That's literally what Christian means.
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Forget it. I forgot what the religious side of imgflip was like. Just like the political.
I'm an abomination. I know. Good day.
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Watermelon_Boi, come to us.

Do you want to be a Christian or do you want to believe in what you believe currently?

There is a difference between believing in what you want to believe, which is idolatry in scripture, because you chose to craft god after your own preferences, or do you want to believe in the true God, regardless of whether He sensible or offends?

That is just the nature of truth.

We believe that the Bible is the word of God, and in it it says

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
- Isaiah 55:8-9

Please continue to seek for truth; please learn from us.
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I grew up a Christian in a Christian household. Crosses were stuffed down my throat until it couldn't go down any further so it went up and clouded my brain, so i couldn't think for myself.
Christianity was ruined for me. I have nothing against Christians or Christianity, but it's now a disease i want to avoid. My girlfriend is Christian so don't tell me I'm being judgemental.
I was yelled at in the household until i was crying so hard i coughed blood. You know the reason why? Because I told them I wasn't a Christian, that i was transgender, and i that i was not straight.
I will never be a Christian and that is final.
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Hi Watermelon_Boi

I'm very sorry that you have experienced that. What you have experienced is not what the Bible supports, nor is it unique to only Christians.

I know now that you are dead set against becoming a Christian, so I will leave it at that.

If however you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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If you deny the Trinity then you are not a Lutheran. Luther would have been enraged if a denomination that is named after him would adopt such a heretical belief.

Furthermore, if you deny the five Solas you are not a Lutheran.

The Five Solas, are the very core beliefs of said denomination. Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone), Sola Fide (Faith Alone), Sola Christus (Christ Alone), Sola Gratia (Grace Alone), and Soli Deo Gloria (To God alone be the glory).

You may follow after other Lutheran practices unique to them, but if you deny the five Soli and the Trinity you do not believe in, you are not a Lutheran.
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Yeah i have a few that are off topic.
I understand why Christians are not supporting of sexualities in general. You explained that.
What about romanticities? Homoromantic relationships?
And why are so many Christians against polyamory despite many people in the Bible having multiple wives?
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I'm afraid both romanticies and homoromantic relationships are a sin. The Bible says that if we entertain sin in our hearts the Lord will not hear us (Psalm 66:18).

Also polyamories, it is also against scripture despite what the Patriarchs, the kings, and others were doing. God allowed certain practices such as divorce because of the hardness of their hearts.

From the beginning, God intended that a man only has one wife and visa versa (Matthew 19:3-8) and instances in the scriptures you see a polyamorous relationships you see conflicts unique to it. A fine example of this is Jacob with his wives Rachel and Leah (Genesis 29-30).
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So. Transgenderism is accepted is what you are saying because transmen are born men, and transwomen are born women. They are just "transgender" because they were put into the wrong vessels.
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No... not really. If a man or woman is biologically born as, he and she must be as their biological gender even if s/he feels that within or essentially, that they're really the opposite sex.
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I mean there's heteroromantic.

And remind me again why transgenderism is so bad?
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In the Bible God intended men to be men and women to be women as He made them to be. For a man to act or be, contrary to what God created him to be is a serious sin.

In Deuteronomy 22 it says:

"5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God."

Also in 1 Corinthians 6:

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Effeminates are men who behave as women.
1 up, 3y
I expected it as much. Well there are different types of Christians so not all are. There are Unitarians (God is one person) and then there are those who believe in Tritheism (belief in three separate Gods). Both can fit under the umbrella term but neither ones are true Christians.

Lutherans are among the first Reformed denominations, but the problem is that some Lutherans believe in what's called Baptismal Regeneration and others do not.

If you know your church history, Martin Luther was very much against the works of the law for salvation and so it is a wonder to me why some Lutherans believe in Baptism for salvation.
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