Giuliani tried to get Maricopa County to overturn election results in December

So your saying he tried to influence an election illegally? Is he facing charges for this? Are the democratic media who admitted to being part of the cabal of interests trying to ensure a proper outcome.

Of course he tried to illegally influence election authorities to overturn the results, just like Trump did in Georgia (around the same time) during his calls to both SoS, Raffensperger and the Chief Investigator, Frances Watson. Whereas Trump's actions were exposed out months ago and have been under investigation ever since (with possible criminal charges pending), Rudy's story just broke today so don't know where things stand investigatively on the matter.

So you are firmly against illegally influencing elections?

What we are talking about here is Trump and Giuliani both trying to illegally coerce Republican government officials into overthrowing certified election results in favor of Trump - after losing 64/65 post election lawsuits - in yet another attempt to steal an election Trump legitimately lost.

Well if you are upset about people trying to influence an election why aren’t you upset that the media admitted to illegally influencing the election by controlling the release of information?

Media - both left and right leaning - has always played a role in trying to influence public opinion prior to elections. That is nothing new. What is however, is 'right leaning' media jumping on board with Trump's election lies and acting as his propaganda mouthpiece, spreading false conspiracies and false info about the voting machines - which they're now being sued billions of dollars for - and convincing millions of Republicans the election had been stolen from Trump when it wasn't. That's reprehensible. What specifically are you referring to?

Stifling information has not been the norm during the presidential election ever before. Leftist media censoring unattractive news stories against Joe Biden were blatant and open influence directly targeted at the election. The Democrats illegally influenced the election by using their media pawns to restrict information. What you’re talking about happened after the election so it had no bearing on the election. Democrats whose motto is by any means necessary manipulated the voting laws illegally and stuff the ballot’s boxes with unverified voters that were tabulated and can no longer be verified. Everyone saw the count stop in the middle of the night.

Suppressing negative information about politicians and other high powered people has gone on for decades. That's known as "catch & kill" in the media world. So too have media smear jobs based on little to no sustantiated evidence. Neither of those are new and both the left and right engage in such, which is why the media is untrusted by so many these days.

I saw what the NY Post had written about Biden and completely disagreed with attempts to squash that story by other outlets. I'm also well aware of what Fox, Newmax & OANN have stated, not only about him but also about his son (who is still under investigation), just as I am about left media states. Unlike most, however, I don't take any of it at face value without actual evidence that supports assertions, which is why I also tend to read the actual legal documents pertaining partisan claims.

With respect to the election, Dems pushed for ways and means in which to expand voting options due to the pandemic, which the GOP in some states fought against. Your assertion that voting laws were manipulated illegally is bogus. Those cases were litigated in court; all of which the Dems won.

Nor was there any stuffing of ballot boxes by unverified voters, etc, as you claim. All of those facts have already been challenged in court in over 60 post election lawsuits (many of which were heard by Republican judges, some Trump appointees themselves) and in all but one case, Trump and his allies lost. The only one they won related to reducing the deadline date for curing a ballot from 9 to 6 days.

I stayed up and watched the election results pour in the entire night till 8 AM the following morning and saw absolutely nothing untoward going on as per Trump's claims. I've also read every legal document that pertained to such. There's a huge difference between what was being alleged by Trump et al and what actually occurred. Which count are specifically referring to?

It doesn’t matter how you take it. It matters that they illegally admitted to attempting to influence the election by overwhelming partisan attacks, not just limiting on reporting of stories. The press literally made a concerted effort to choose sides in a US election and influence it. That is not normal and you are being insincere.

I agree that it should not be normal but disagree on the timeline for how long it's been going on. Even twenty years ago, it was blatantly apparent what side newspapers were on based on their headlines, the stories they ran and the full page ads they published for one political party or another.

These days, news is much more ubiquitious due to the internet, which is one of the reasons why partisanship is so much more noticeable today. That and the fact that Trump is/was such a devisive figure that clear political lines were drawn in the sand when it came to reporting of him (which was almost daily due to the outrageous things he said or did).

There use to be slightly Different rules during elections. When they allowed one sides political views to be expressed they gave equal time to the other side. That was nonexistent in this last election.

You're a lunatic , BTW .

I'm pretty sure you'd also say that about every GOP official nationwide that's currently standing up for truth, honesty and ethics rather than corrupting themselves via supporting Trump's BS lies.

"Bill, it's Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's lawyer". "If you get a chance, would you please give me a call? I have a few things I'd like to talk over with you. Maybe we can get this thing fixed up. You know, I really think it's a shame that Republicans sort of are both in this, kind of, situation. And I think there may be a nice way to resolve this for everybody."

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/24/fixed-up-rudy-giuliani-pressured-arizona-official-to-find-a-nice-way-to-resolve-this-election/