It's not really about the children, is it?

There was a bill passed (I don't remember which state) that made it mandatory for the male to have a say in the abortion. But what would you want ther bills to say about men?

No woman gets pregnant alone. If it's criminal for her, it needs to be the same for him.

I agree, which is why I also think the man should have a say so in the abortion.

What would you be criminalizing men for?

The same thing the women would be.

Men can have an abortiion? Tell me more.

Women can get pregnant by themselves? Tell me more.

Women can prevent getting pregnant all by themself. Also, men have no say - even husbands - in the decision to get an abortion. And when a woman decides - all by herself - to have a baby, the father is responsible for a portion of the cost of that childs life thru 18 yrs or more. Your argument is very thin, at best. But,you can attempt to make it. If you choose.

Women can't get pregnant by themselves.

Men can prevent pregnancies all by themselves. There's even a surgery to make sure it never ever happens.

If he didn't want to have children, he should abstain from having sex.

It is just that simple.

Men who can't control themselves and not get a woman pregnant need to be prepared to support that child. It's just that simple.

You can try to argue that a man can't control when they have children and how they are responsible for that kid. If you choose.

You argue that if a man didn't want children he could prevent it. Mostly True. However, if a man DID want children and she wants an abortion, that is 100% her choice, and abortion is what your meme is about. And no one is saying the father has no responsible for the pregnancy and supporting the child. That is the scenario I am addressing. Also - Ever heard of sperm banks? Women can go "all by themselves" and get impregnated.

So you're in a way, supporting rape-pregnancy.

Not even a bit. Rape is wrong as well as illegal. And if a man impregnates a woman during the process of raping her, he is to be held accountable.

Z And then the man leaves the scene for another woman forcing the first woman to make the difficult choices alone that she didn't want to make in the first place

I'm talking about the more insidious kind of rape. For instance, woman doesn't want child, her husband/ significant other does. They agree not to have kids but still want to express themselves intimately.

In a Christian world, birth control does not exist. At best, there's condoms. Man pokes holes in condom to have his kid in spite of the wishes of the would be mother.

Now the woman is forced to have a child she didn't want to have because of the dishonesty of the male. But now abortions are illegal. Men would say it's her fault for opening her legs. F**k that bullshit.

Men cannot and should not have workhorse rules over a woman's body and her reproductive Organa. If agreements can't be reached, the default should err on side that doesn't want a kid.

I can see you are reaching a long way to prove yourself right so I will stop asking for justification and explanation. Live happy.

Men can prevent abortions too, don't have sex.

The father can choose to leave. That being said, I can see you are reaching a long way to prove yourself right so I will stop asking for justification and explanation.

Live happy.

https://www.insider.com/lady-gaga-impregnated-rape-abuse-the-me-you-cant-see-2021-5