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Blank White Template | Dear Moderators.  I need help.  You do not have to post this on your stream as I do not want this conflict between me and the person in question to go beyond your stream. JotaroSimp812928 is intending to post an LGBTQ meme on a Christian stream w/o regards to its rules.  I have also asked to remove his meme on a Christian stream but the person refused.  Please help resolve this matter between us.  Our exchange will be cited on the chatbox. | image tagged in blank white template | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
239 views โ€ข 12 upvotes โ€ข Made by UniformVictor 4 years ago in LGBTQ
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1 up, 4y,
2 replies
Also um.. not mad but u used the wrong pronouns for me. I go by they/them
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Is it OK that I use just your screen name instead?
2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
If you dont respect my pronouns which is as simple as they/them then I'm not even going to bother with you
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0 ups, 4y
Would you PLEASE stop being so harsh on him?! He's still new to this, He doesn't know what non-binary are, Can't you see how calmly he's answering you? Give him a minute, He'll understand
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Dude shut the f**k up. He is trying to be TOLERANT. Tolerant is not ACCEPTANCE. He is tolerating you. You are infringing on his religious rights as a free person. In other religions, you would've been shot by now. So shut it because he's trying his best to respect you and you're being an absolute asshole about it.
0 ups, 4y
I'm just trying to get him to use my pronouns right? If his religion is against my identity as a person I'm one hundo percent sure that isnt an okay opinion
1 up, 4y,
2 replies
HI JotaroSimp812928; I'm afraid I cannot use your preferred pronoun but I'll try my best not to use the pronoun you disagree with.
2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
They/them pronouns are not hard to use. Instead of saying "he" say "they"

If your sentence says something like "he is" just change it to "they are"
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Remember when I said "Teach him about non-binary first" xD
Oh well I already did it
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Yeah, but explaining myself can be stressing. I just thought teaching him to use the pronouns first would be better because that's the thing he is struggling with
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
It would've been more understanding to just explain where it all came from, But either way, I think he's getting it
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Yeah thanks for your explanation dude. I think he got it but he still refuses to bc of religion :(
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0 ups, 4y
I doubt that, He's just new, He's strict to it, But he's not bound to it, He'll learn
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
They're not hard to use, you're right, but ... I just can't use them.

I can, however, whenever I introduce you to a friend I can tell them your preferred Pronoun. But, I cannot go beyond that.
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Here is some example sentences for you to study then.

"Someone lost THEIR hat. I'll put it in the lost and found so THEY can get it later."
"I wonder who my secret santa is? THEY got me great presents."
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
It's entirely a matter of religious identity, I assume. Nothing personal, just an opinion that Victor does not agree with.
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0 ups, 4y
wow i tried to step in on a four day old conversation
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1 up, 4y,
2 replies
Why
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1 up, 4y
He's a bit strict, But he's trying
1 up, 4y,
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To acknowledge the preferred pronoun.. be it It, They/Them, etc, is to affirm a thing that I know that it is not biologically true (and it certainly would not be agreeable to the scriptures). Even if the one desiring to be acknowledged as, and feel that they are with all their being, they're still born as the gender for which they're physically born with.

I am aware of certain cases where a man was born with a breast, or a woman with a distinctive genitalia, but even in such cases I could not call the former a woman and the latter a man. Such developmental cases are mere biological abnormalities. Abnormalities I mean, not that it means it lessens their value as human beings, but the unique physical developments are rare.
3 ups, 4y,
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Oh hey look you just used they/them pronouns yay!! How hard was it? Do you feel accomplished at all?? Or did you just refuse to use they/them and assume I was a he
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1 up, 4y
Usually when I am commenting on a meme from another person I immediately ask for their preferred pronouns and when they respond I then comment
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
I accidentally said "he" on the meme above. I tried not to use any pronouns at all to remain neutral and non offensive as possible.
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Okay well, at least try reffering to me as they or them instead of saying you're "just not able to"
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Please forgive me, I really cannot. I am bound to my convictions as a Christian; I cannot yield to a perspective I know is contrary to my beliefs.

Would it be OK if I just use your screen name in reference to you?
1 up, 4y,
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No. It would be OK if you just used they/them when reffering to me. If you cannot refer to me as who I am because your religion is "against it" then just dont refer to me at all
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2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Jeez, Let him understand a little bit first, He doesn't know what non-binaries are
2 ups, 4y
I will, but I really must go. I'll let you know when I've read them, and will ask you to give me greater clarification.

Please enjoy the rest of your day, Reaper.
2 ups, 4y
I've understood your explanation; it is a term that allows a person not comfortable with strict two-gender pronouns to acknowledge who they feel they truly are. To them, they're not strictly male, or female; and cannot bring themselves to fit into the binary description.

I must go, God bless you too!
1 up, 4y,
2 replies
I must go, but I'm glad that we're not fighting anymore. Please enjoy the rest of your day.
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2 ups, 4y
I think people should be more kind to people who have different beliefs and I am so sorry for how people act passive aggressive when talking to you
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0 ups, 4y
Alright, I'll see you later then, God bless
0 ups, 4y,
3 replies
OK... "They/Them" I cannot use, so I'll have to avoid referring to you.
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1 up, 4y
Would you at least read the explanation I wrote down for you?
0 ups, 4y
Please read Reaper's explanation. Would you like me to copy paste it or..?
0 ups, 4y
I've read Reaper's description, but Reaper might have another one. Please do.
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
I apologize if I have offended you by the use of a pronoun you disagree with.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I accept your apology. But please stop saying you "cant use my preferred pronouns" because the thing it you ARE
0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
OK, I will not use "preferred", but may I use your screen name instead?
1 up, 4y,
2 replies
You may use my screen name I guess. Just dont call me a she or he tho. I get you tried to be understanding, but if your religion is against addressing me for who I am I dont really care then. Just keep using my name over and over and over, which is much harder than just saying they or them ya know.

Actually heres a though. Why dont you say they/them as if you're pretending that you dont know what my gender is? Because tyay wouldn't be against your religion right?
1 up, 4y
*that wouldnt be
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Hi Jotaro, thank you for your sacrificial consideration this issue of pronouns. I will try my best not to use "She" and "He" in reference to you.

I am also very grateful that you have removed that meme from the Christian stream. It must have been very hard for you to give in to my request as I'm sure that you felt that you have retreated and have compromised your values.

Thank you.
0 ups, 4y
You're welcome I guess?
0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Yes, you can use whatever the hell you want... They shouldn't be so f**kin offended... It's just words man... You TRYING should be good enough for them but instead, they need more and more... You just gotta tolerate'em, not accept them... Just keep using ___ as their pronouns and ignore their anger. It's their fault for bein a snowflake about this whole situation. They shouldn't be forcing you to change your religious belief. that's infringing on your religious freedom as an American.
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Shut ๐Ÿ™†โ€โ™‚๏ธ the ๐Ÿ™†โ€โ™‚๏ธ f**k ๐Ÿ™†โ€โ™‚๏ธ up

If his beleif is a belief that says it's okay to discriminate then that belief is obvi f**ked.
0 ups, 4y
Doesn't say it's okay to discriminate. Just says it's wrong. You guys are equal he just doesn't have to accept what he sees as sinful.
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Also I apologized to him. He apologized to me. You don't have to comment and invoke more drama encouraging UniformVictor to NOT learn how to use my right pronouns.
0 ups, 4y
Good. Good to know you apologized and stopped being such a... ugh...
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2 ups, 4y
Of course it isn't, This isn't the biological gender, This is the Psychological gender, We all know the difference,
It's when someone psychologically doesn't feel like they belong in the biological gender they were assigned on,
Such as Transgender (Who are more comfortable in opposite gender) or Non-Binary (It means "Not in the Male-Female binary", It's for people who don't feel comfortable in either Male or Female categories, Thus, They use pronouns such as "They/Them"), Simple as that, They agree that their biological gender remains the same, But still live their life with a more peaceful category
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Hello I am sorry but if you care so much about biology then why donโ€™t you support the theory of evolution? I donโ€™t want to start a conflict and I have respect for your beliefs but in many different cultures of people there are more than 2 genders (in India and in Native American cultures there are more than three genders) I am trying to use science and I am not against or attacking your beliefs and I respect them
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
You talking about intersex or two spirit?
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I donโ€™t know it depends on the culture
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Fair enough
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Thank you for the question I hope to not be biased to one way or another
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0 ups, 4y
No problem
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Dear Moderators. I need help. You do not have to post this on your stream as I do not want this conflict between me and the person in question to go beyond your stream. JotaroSimp812928 is intending to post an LGBTQ meme on a Christian stream w/o regards to its rules. I have also asked to remove his meme on a Christian stream but the person refused. Please help resolve this matter between us. Our exchange will be cited on the chatbox.