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Eeeeeeeenough already. | ITS TIME FOR GUN CONTROL; CARRY IN PUBLIC; OR WILL IT TAKE SOMETHING LIKE WHEN REAGAN WAS SHOT AGAIN? | image tagged in memes,gun control,maga,2nd amendment,action,politics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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45 mass shooting in the last month, and republicans still don’t think there should be change?? Smh
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Well when they were in charge the killing of elementary kids did not seem to faze them much, lets see if we can get some changes now that they are not in charge.
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This must explain why 99% of ammo and rifles are out of stock and have been for the last 12 months in most stores and all over the internet.

The Pandemic and Then Biden dethroned Der Fuhrer was a double blow to the Maga crowd living in fear that Biden will Declare a National Emergency and Ban the AR15 & Magazines over 10 rounds from Coaat to Coast indefinitely. 🤣
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a mass shooting is any shooting with 3 people involved
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Maybe if somebody shot Trump, then maybe his base would care about gun control. Maybe he would too!
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probably not as most trump supporters are logical and realize that incident shouldn't mean everyone should have their guns taken away.
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Ronald Reagan | "EVERY YEAR, AN AVERAGE OF 9,200 AMERICANS ARE MURDERED BY HANDGUNS, ACCORDING TO DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE STATISTICS,"THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE SU | image tagged in ronald reagan | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
https://theweek.com/articles/582926/how-ronald-reagan-learned-love-gun-control
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I find it funny that they’re pro gun and anti mass shooter. Like if you don’t want someone to get shot, eliminate the gun. And BOOM. less shootings
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Well, they argue that people would just get the guns illegally. Ignoring the fact that if every country implemented gun control, how would you get the guns...
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also there are 3d printed guns that are becoming more and more reliable, what are you going to do... outlaw 3d printers?
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Legally
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illegal factorys? or secret government ones (look at gun runners as an example of shady government gun sales)
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look at the u.ks knife crime also taking guns from law abiding citizens will do nothing but bolster criminal activity
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Gun control doesn’t solve the problem.
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Tell it to Singapore.
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So? so do nothing? again? still? sorry Charlie, its time to reign in the weapons of war.
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I didn't say do nothing but lookong at this realistically, there is nothing you can do, short of banning all firearm ownership and deleting the 2nd Amendment outright, that will end death by gun.

And the fact is that even if Biden and Congress were to to sign such a Bill that stated those words, tomorrow...

How would you go about enforcing it from coast to coast without violating other parts of the Constitution? Like the 4th Amendment, against illegal search and seizure by government?

Are you going to send in the National Guard to knock on every house / apartment / Warehouse / commercial Building door and turn every room and floorboard upside down and break down walls like a Hurricane searching for any and all hidden Firearms in every room to confiscate?

That would be a Logistical Nightmare just for starters.
And secondly, there are a few million people that wouldn't comply and give up where their stuff is at.

How would they defend themselves against a burglar or angry ex boyfriend?

Weapons of War is a bad term. Because almost all weapons that were ever invented, started because they needed to be used in war. They went on sale for public consumption to the public after the war was over.

But the reason they exist in the 1st place is because they ere needed for war. This covers rifles, shotguns and pistols. As well as calibers.

To say nothing of Milltary Vehicles, Uniform gear and Explosives.

So how do you go about picking and choosing what to reign in, if they're all weapons of war?

From a 1911 to your Grandfathers old deer Rifle.
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jfc... you gun nuts are all the same... ohhh pooor wittle us.... they are going to take ALL our guns... wth is wrong with you gun freaks?

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/29/opinion/why-i-m-for-the-brady-bill.html

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/gun-control-act
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You think I'm a gun nut because I want to be able to own guns? In spite of what bad people do with them?

That's a little extreme Doncha think?
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every day same stupid shit of right wing crybaby ... ooohhh cant take our guns... give it a rest sweetcheaks and grow up... there is LOTS that can be done.

did you even bother actually reading the ORIGINAL MEME???
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While we are at it.... explain to us all what a " well regulated* militia" means.... and what about the 18th amendment?
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Ummm, you know the 18th has to do with the prohibition of Alcohol which was made illegal to sell and transport in the 1920s, not guns right?

Not that it worked very well, people who wanted Alcohol found a way to make it and sell it and deliver it.

The prohibition of Alcohol led to the creation of Nascar, Souped up cars to transport illegal alcohol or Moonshine and escape and outrun the Police... The movie Smokey and the Bandit was about this.

As far as "well regulated"...
(as a Liberal Democrat, who owns guns and can own anything legally because of my squeaky clean record)

I think background checks & closing gun show parking lot sale loopholes is a good idea, & incendiary explosive devices shouldn't be allowed to be sold to just anybody who doesn't have a legitimate reason to be messing with light arms ordinance, anti-tank, anti-aircraft missiles, (Military Contractor / Manufacturer / Film Production/ Museum)

It's certainly not spelled out in the Constitution that you can own Cannons from the 1700s or hand grenades & rocket launchers, which didn't exist back then, but it also doesn't say you only have the right to defend yourself with a Musket and Sword, while every couple of years "The Government" keeps benefitting from creating more and more sophisticated future technologically advanced weapons.

The idea and message of the 2nd Amendment when it was written being that "The Government" and "We The People" should be on equal standing.

For the People to be able to defend themselves from a "Tyrannical Government" they had to be able to use the same arms that the Government had.

But now 200 years later, everybody who wrote it is dead, and we have created every 30 years, more and more advanced weaponry with changing times, and also enacted laws to prevent the average Joe from owning these newer and more advanced weapons every time that there was a terrible Incident around the country involving one of these newer weapons.

The famous John Dillinger in the 1930s, had Thompson Machine guns running wild in Chicago with the 1st early automobiles, and led to the 1934 NFA, Taxing all new Machine Guns made and requiring registration of the weapons to the owners, in 1986 After Reagan was shot & almost Killed, the Machine Gun Ban, making it illegal to keep producing New Machine Guns (BAR, UZI, Mac-10, AK-47, AR15/M16, Minigun, etc) for sale and Public consumption, Only for Law Enforcement and Military use since 1986 all the way to today.
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So the point there, is that today, "We The People" are no longer standing on equal footing with "The Government" who has all the new modern weapons, while "We The People" are and have been stuck in the past with what is basically 1950s technology.

The Original AR, the AR-10 was developed and created in the mid 1950s by Eugene Stoner, the AR-15 that you know & recognize is the smaller baby version of it that came after in the late 1950s, it fires in Semi-Auto only. And "M16" is what the Military calls the ones that can fire in Full Auto.
It was introduced and began being used in Combat in Vietnam starting in 1964 and was fully implemented by 1969.

And since then The Government now has Unmanned aerial drones that can watch your house and bomb you from 40,000 feet up in the air by the pilot sitting in a Bunker somewhere playing with the joystick and watching the monitor like a Call of Duty iseo game and you'll never see it coming until you're instantly incinerated.

So unless all these new toys are going to be sold to the public starting tomorrow, there is no way that realistically We the people can overthrow or even stop the government now if it decides to become tyrannical and put everybody in a concentration camp or start killing people off in large groups with just an AR15 or even an M16.

We are outmatched, just with the Drones.
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So you can own a hand grenade legally huh? And wrong ... a well regulated militia is called "the national guard"

As far as the 18th amendment, there comes a time when parts of the constitution are no longer relevant, the founding fathers knew this and why the constitution is set up to be fungible and why I mentioned it.

No one is talking about repealing the second, or using a strict interpretation of "well regulated militia".... yet. But keep fighting common sense regs, then that will be all that is left to fight with.

the 2nd was because we had no army... period. Its outdated and the cause of much death and pain.
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I got news for you. There has always been death and pain. And there always will be. Before and after the invention of firearms.

And the National Guard is not and cannot, bd the "Well Regulated Militia"

The National Guard, just like the Coast Guard, Army, Navy, the Air Force and Marines and now the "Space Force" is strictly A Military Branch Force under the Command of The President of the United States.

Not "We The People" as a Militia was considered Private. Not Run by the Government or even State.

in 1766 (ten years before the Declaration of Independence), Justice William Blackstone specifically referenced this factual history when setting forth the common law definition of the term “militia,” which he stated was an “auxiliary right of the individual, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty, to act in concert with his neighbors in defense of the state.”
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and just as applicable today as the horse and buggy laws. We had a 19th amendment that changed things too. Out of date arguments like that just strengthen the resolve to just do away with the second all together.
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I suppose they could pass a new Amendment that reveals the 2nd altogether.

But I doubt that'll happen in this lifetime.

You're going to need it to pass in Both houses of congress and also be passed by a majority of 2/3rd of all the 50 states. (34 of 50)

And then they have to be ratified by 3/4ths of the states (38 of 50)
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You are blaming inanimate objects for dead people
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great appeal to emotion, sadly not a argument.
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1 up, 3y
yep
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Look at Singapore, it is illegal to own any gun and they have the lowest homicide by gun rate in the world.
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Hol up, I looked up crime rate in Singapore. Look
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Sure
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No I dont, I dont think I have ever used the term agree to disagree ever in my life, and if I ever did, it would never ever have been to let someone have their own facts. its like telling a flat earther, lets agree to disagree... no ... there is no agreement at all. period. the earth is not flat. never will be. and you would be wrong.
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You can't have different beliefs on facts!
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Crime and gun deaths are very different things
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Yes I mean this is a very controversial subject but studies show that gun laws decrease gun crime but increase other crimes and vise versa.
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Yea, some would say any other crime is better than death
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its one of the lowest
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no shit Sherlock, how about you look up Britain's stabbing rates after they banned guns
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https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/singapore.php#:~:text=Singapore%20has%20one%20of%20the,offense%20is%20punishable%20with%20death.
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singapores population is a fraction of the us, and has some of the best info structure and quality of life in the entire world, all violent crime is almost non existent also the strong deterrence of the draconian policy's could also have to do it. outlawing guns didnt change much and hasnt changed much in most of the places its implemented into.
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ps, why dont you point to where anyone said get rid of all guns? stfu with that already.
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Guns do kill people
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How ‘bout we comprise. Both kill people
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Go stab 60 people to death and wound another 750 more.... smh
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting
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you gun idiots.
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