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BLM vs. ALM in a nutshell (see new streams in comments!)

BLM vs. ALM in a nutshell (see new streams in comments!) | Black Lives Matter; "All Lives Matter"; Protests discrete instances of injustice, promotes an actual agenda for progress; Empty slogan dreamed up by a racist troll to counter BLM, offers no proposal to fix any real issue for anyone | image tagged in buff doge vs maga cheems,blm,all lives matter,black lives matter | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
346 views 17 upvotes Made by Slobama 4 years ago in politicsTOO
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
"Promotes agenda for progress" you mean racebaiting the public, racebaiting the kids, making a new world order by anarchy, when the BIASED media calls it "peaceful", Looting buisnesses which some of were black owned, then setting them on fire after. "The bigger the lie, the more likely the people will believe it. And when a nation cries for vengance, the lies spread like a wildire." -Vladimir Makarov
[deleted] M
0 ups, 4y,
3 replies
It makes sense that someone on the right would quote an ultranationalist terrorist.
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2 ups, 4y
Though a terrorist, he’s right on some things. We can’t tell the difference between lies, and we are more likely to believe lies than the truth.
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1 up, 4y,
2 replies
You guys literally want to take over Israel. We want to protect it.
[deleted] M
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
What do you mean by "you guys?"
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0 ups, 4y
leftists
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0 ups, 4y
That does not imply that they are terrorists, just back off. You might catch a bit too much flak for that kind of statement.
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0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Alright, enough of this. I've seen it too many times online. That's petty generalization and hypocritical stereotyping. The right isn't entirely made up of racist monsters looking to annihilate anyone who looks different, and the left isn't entirely made up of anti-freedom beasts seeking to end lives when convenient while hiding their beliefs under a mask of kindness. I am a conservative, but this is a childish squabble to have in the first place. Both groups of "people" exist, but neither make up the majority of their party.
To the point of the post- ALM is not an organization as much as an ideal- to point out the fact that African-American hardships are not exactly as horrible as depicted and that everyone has their problems. There are many injustices against African-Americans. But as leftists have been so quick to point out, Hispanics as well. Asians too. This would imply that there are injustices towards every race, as those three races make up a hell of a lot of the world's population. Caucasian happens to be a race. It is next to entirely inconceivable that there is not a single injustice posed against people of white skin. BLM, on the other hand, puts a skewed view on things- that the world is against people of one color, and that those people deserve special treatment.
Newsflash.
They're still just people.
The person who created ALM cannot be imagined as racist- for one, because, well, we don't know who he is. Secondly, because the name is literally "All Lives Matter". How, and please explain, how can this be racist, if it is implying that every single person, regardless of color, background, or sex, is equal? Furthermore, given the fact that ALM is indisputably not a racist term, what evidence is there that "Black Lives Matter" is not a racist statement, as it puts emphasis on one specific race, and fronts an organization that refuses to see eye to eye with anyone who disagrees with the statement that black injustices are greater than all others entirely due to race? How would I be wrong if I compared BLM to a reverse (markedly less violent) Ku Klux Klan, or considered it a "black supremacist" movement? Both would apply, as it puts focus on one race, pushing its desire for superiority to the forefront of publicity.
This is not meant to carry a tone of hostility. I am simply promoting deliberation.
Please, just remain civil as much as you can. I could not ask you more. I hate animosity.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Thoughtful post free of invective. Thanks.

I don’t have time for a long rebuttal but the problems I have with ALM are these:

1. ALM misdiagnoses the problem — namely misses the fact that anti-black racism is still a massive problem in society
2. ALM offers no actual solutions or agenda items to improve anyone’s lives. It’s a feel-good slogan suitable for a sign and nothing more
3. ALM arose DELIBERATELY to undermine and steal the thunder from BLM, AND imply that BLM are “the real racists” simply for trying to draw attention to issues that affect (mainly) black people.

Tl;dr — It is incredibly effective anti-BLM propaganda.
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0 ups, 4y
Animosity averted. Well done. A thoughtful user.
I understand entirely the thought that ALM has no real goal, but does it really? Violent protest to the extent of rioting would not be considered a very nice game plan, exactly (I'm aware most of the protests are actually just protests, but it is undeniable that there are plenty of riots for the cause). One could argue that ALM has no plan going forward, but that's among the strengths of the group under that name. Not having a plan, but having the ability to improvise, is the greatest advantage one could possibly have. If you can have a goal in mind, and move to take every avenue to fulfill that goal without sticking to a game plan, you are truly commendable.
Of course, we won't see the effects or reap the fruits of that ability for a while. Unity isn't an easy goal, and will take a while. It's useless to pretend that racism can end today, or even in the foreseeable future. As long as humankind exists, cruelty and evil does.
[deleted] M
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
In addition to what KylieFan said, is that no one makes a perfect slogan. When BLM Activists say "Black Lives Matter" It's not to say that BLM more or are worthy of any more effort than others. Instead, the "Black Lives Matter" is a slogan that is trying to speak against the perception that they hold in which they feel like, compared to the rest of the US population, they feel like they don't matter. So instead, when you say "Black Lives Matter." Understand, it's "Black Lives Matter [as well/too.]" Saying "All Lives matter" comes across as "Your problems are not as important as you make them out to be."

Everyone understands what "ALM" means for people of good intention; that every life is precious and must be fought for just as hard as the next. No one disputes that. The problem is, the BLM community feels overlooked, and that's why they came up with the slogan in the first place. To have ALM as an **obvious** counter to what BLM is, feels like it's a minimization or reduction of their plight that they endure as a community. That's why the animosity exists. THat's why I support ALM.

Because 1: I am not black, I cannot pretend to understand what they're going through, nor will I ever... Except, this previous presidency had it come close. Because of which political support group I supported, I felt like my life was in danger. But to be black in the south? I can't even imagine. People go through real racism there. I can't imagine or pretend to know what that *actually* feels like. I support them because, while all lives matter, theirs do as well. I will always agree that all lives matter. But I will never agree that because all lives matter, black lives shouldn't.
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Sorry to come back so late, but I just remembered how BLM vandalized the Massachusetts 54th regiment memorial.
Every
Single
Soldier in that unit

was black
[deleted] M
0 ups, 4y
Gonna take one out of Ted Cruz playbook:

obviously false flag.
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