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I have heard that it is possible but difficult, but however difficult it is -- I feel it's become very necessary of late for certain banned users who just keep coming back again and again and again (and again and again) under different alts

The amount of time and emotional energy these banned trolls drain from the community is hard to overstate

I don't think it would be too difficult if the admins have their own physical sever and not something like AWS. On a physical server, they could upload a blacklist file that checks the ip of people getting on against those on the list and not connect if there is a match. Idk about AWS though.

True, though I believe most of them will just buy a VPN.

Maybe

Using a common phrase like that is not proof that he is in any way linked to WN

Using a common phrase like that is not proof that he is in any way linked to WN

memechat me as soon as you can

Since the last time I was on today, I've decided I'll pick someone else, not because I'm convinced he's WN or anything, but because I didn't look at how new he was, and I don't want another war on this stream. I haven't been able to say it becu I've been stuck in school, but it's finally the weekend and I can be on here and do what I need to.

Proud of you. Been tracking the drama on the other stream. You did the right thing.

Don't be too hard on Legion. He has a 16 year old child who comes here and since she's non-white, he just trying to be protective of her. That's all. He's a great guy. He just cares about his child. Anyone in his position would do the same.

This silly little game unfortunately is having real world consequences. Exposing children to Nazi hate speech is abuse. Just WN's presence there alone is abusive given his predatory behavior. Best not to take the risk.

Also Daltoids did use the word "qu*eer" in a homophobic attack. As Legion pointed out, that is no different that using the "n-word with a black person". In real life if someone in Congress used that word, then they would be kicked out in a heartbeat. So you are being consistent in your decision. My wife is bi-sexual and would be horribly offended by anyone's use of that word.

I moderated the motinet meme network for 20 years. Moderating can be hard. But doing the right thing never is.

Don't sweat it. Be strong. You did the right thing. Remember that some of us having children on this website and we just want it to remain a safe place for them.

Have a good one. Nothing personal.

True, but at some point, they will hear that word at school or something anyway. While it is rude, that's all it is. A rude word. It won't cause any real harm to someone, and silencing anyone who says "queer" isn't doing anything but making a false reality bubble around them that will inevitably collapse. People need to learn to ignore rudeness, not demand it be silenced.

Yes. By itself that isn't bad.

But I can promise you that Daltroids is WhiteNationalist. I'm a moderator currently over at Wikipedia and we have tools where sockpuppetry and alts are a common problem.

Wikipedia is a high-end sophisticated website and we have webtools that can take the last ten comments you made and compare them to the comments of another person to confirm multiaccounting. Basic forensic tools like that. Same as used by law enforcement when tracking online predators

Everyone uses similar speech patterns and word phrases. Think of it as an electronic signature. When I run your comments with Legion for instance, I get a 3.02876463% match. Clearly you and Legion are different people.

When I run Daltroids comments with those by his former alt Hedgewik, I get a 97.47327746% On wikipedia that is sufficient enough to confirm an alt in what we call a check user test. With VPNs and proxies a person can easily hide their IP information.

Everyone has an internet finger print. That is why it is best not to use alts and to stay away from trolling.

I understand where you are coming from. But it is not "silencing someone" to err on the side of caution to protect children. I am 40+ years old. I'm a mandatory reporter. If this drama with WhiteNat continues I can report this to child protective services in California, the home state where imgflip more or less resides. With their resources and the help of law-enforcement they can certainly find out who is who and hold everyone responsible. You don't want to go down with that ship.

Nothing personal but you must sake this seriously and not turn this lamely into a first amendment experiment. Hatespeech and child abuse are NOT first Amendment rights. Neither is harassment.

Food for thought.

Nevertheless, thank you for doing the right thing sir. Even if it was for your own personal reasons.

Okay. I thought you meant that use of the word queer is child abuse. As you can see in the image, I have been upholding WN's ban.

No worries. We are cool

That speech patter stuff is the type of compelling argument that i need to decide something. As for the rest of your post, I disagree with the idea that a kid hearing the word "queer" or something of the type is child abuse. Also, any speech that doesn't directly cause violence is protected by the first amendment, and allowing people their constitutional right is not some experiment, it's basic decency. I believe in the statement, "I disagree completely with what you are saying, but I will always fight for your right to say it."

Again you are missing the forest for the trees. I wasn't talking about him simply using the word "queer". I was speaking about WhiteNationalist. The jerk who posts this toxic garbage https://i.imgflip.com/51h25c.jpg

WhiteNationalist is banned from imgflip, for starters. WhiteNationalist regularly talks about violently deporting "non-whites" and denies the holocaust (which is illegal in some countries), belittles transexuals and homosexuals, and posts pictures glorifying Hitler and Nazism. Yes, exposing children to that is child abuse. No, that is not his constitutional right according to American law and precedent. Ask someone at your school if you need to verify this. It is considered a form of inciting violence against others. Similar to if someone yelled fire in a theater when there is none, and caused thousands to be trampled to death when people ran for the exits.

American law and human decency disagrees with you whole heartedly. Why? Here is a fancy statement, if you like them so much, "Your rights end where mine begin". People have a right to life if your right to speech manages to take away that right. Someone does not have a right to use their speech to incite violence or harass another. Otherwise mob bosses or cult leaders like Charles Manson could never be prosecuted for ordering the deaths of others.

If you like fancy smarty-pants quotes, then your first Amendment absolutism remind me of this other fancy statement, "Power corrupts by ABSOLUTE power corrupts absolutely."

This weird need for you young ones to protect WhiteNationalist's illegal ability to expose minors to hate speech, which yes is abuse, is not rebelliousness. It's insanity. You teenager must think you are the last honest people alive. No. Your honesty is madness.

On this matter, you are simply wrong. Period. There is no free speech right to expose teenage children to hate speech. Period.

Besides.

There are better, more fun, tests of the first amendment if you want to be a young punk and test its limits. Burning the flag. Gangster rap. I was in a heavy metal band back when I was young, skinnier and had a curly mullet. I sung a foul mouthed blue streak about Satan that would make a nun weep.

tl;dr version- being proud of protecting a rabid white supremacist troll is just about the most redneck and simple minded evil thing I've ever heard of.

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