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2 ups, 4y,
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so. In my opinion, the politics stream is possibly one of the worst streams on imgflip. It's supposed to be for civil political discussion, but now it's just a conservative circlejerk. It's very chaotic, filled with ad hominems and arguments that are mostly just insults between political affilations. There are occasionally white supremacists on the stream. I plan to fix that.
I feel like the main problem is the userbase of the stream. It's obviously mostly conservatives, otherwise there would be more people upvoting non-conservative memes so the front page wouldn't be entirely conservative. Even though this may seem like just a lure for more arguing, I want to try going to non-conservatives and getting more liberals, libertarians, et cetera, et cetera, on the politics stream. Therefore, there will be more people who upvote liberal memes and the like to get more memes like that on the front page, so it will be less conservative-biased.
As for white supremacists, they will be advised to go to streams like Based_And_Redpilled and SafeSpot, which will be used in this stream too. I do not support wubbzymon's attack on SafeSpot, because if there are no streams like SafeSpot, then white nationalists will go on normal streams like this one, which will just make the problem bigger.
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0 ups, 4y
We sitewide mods have discussed options on what to do about the politics stream. As I see it, nothing really can be done to make it less toxic, as politics is a subject people are quite passionate about and are willing to fight to make sure their ideas prevail. You also can't change what is popular in the politics section without changing the userbase of Imgflip itself. To do that, you have to convince more left-minded people to use Imgflip, as the only other way to change the userbase would be to ban conservatives, which is unfair to them. Not to mention, if more leftists joined Imgflip, all it would do is inverse the problems and give leftists the edge when it comes to controlling what is popular on the stream, which wouldn't exactly solve the issue of toxicity either, since it's bipartisan. My suggestions would be to either leave the politics stream and use a stream that supports a stated viewpoint like politicsTOO or conservatives, or create a new stream as a community-run alternative to politics that isn't biased towards any side. I did plan on turning https://imgflip.com/m/PoliticalMemes into that community-run alternative; if you want to go down that road, I can send you a mod invite.
0 ups, 4y,
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Interesting thoughts. Couple quick reactions:

1. You can’t really change the userbase of Imgflip. Politics stream (at least the “hot” memes) seem destined to always lean far to the right. However, I do support liberal memes and commenters there and have been contributing two memes a day to “politics” for over a year now.

2. Persistent harassment and abuse of terms should be stopped, and I think Imgflip has been doing a better job of that lately. It may be hard to tell, but I do feel that the culture of politics stream has improved from where it used to be. I am less viciously personally attacked for expressing liberal thoughts; my comments are less frequently downvoted to oblivion; and when conservatives do reply to me, they are bringing more substantive debatable points than they used to.

3. I don’t think Neo-Nazis (or the ever so slightly friendlier-sounding rebranding they like to call themselves, “white nationalists”) belong on Imgflip, period. Their whole way of seeing, talking about, and interacting with other people who don’t conform to their notions of how a person should be is contrary to TOS. Their “safe space” streams are used as rallying points and base camps rather than quarantine silos, since they do venture into other streams including “politics” and this one. The longer these memers and streams are allowed on Imgflip, the more of their ilk they will attract and the harder it will be to deal with them later.

Just my 2 cents.
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1 up, 4y,
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But if we don't have streams like that, won't they just take their bullshit to normal streams? We wouldn't want that...
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
But they do that anyway, and like I said, they don't really belong here spreading supremely bigoted crap anyway.

If they violate TOS, they should have their comments/memes deleted, and if it's bad enough and they continue to fail to heed mod advice, their whole accounts should be nuked.
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1 up, 4y
Still, it's just going to be worse if we don't have a place to round them up.
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