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let's see how you guys react to this... | If flying a confederate flag is just "southern pride" then by that logic flying a nazi flag is just german patriotism | image tagged in memes,change my mind | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Both are protected by the constitution
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If you're referring to free speech, yes. but that's not what i referring to. but is, by that logic, flying a nazi flag just german patriotism?
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Not unless your German. Can you be a German patriot if your American?
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Not sure about that take bud.
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That flying a flag is protected by the constitution under free speech?
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You said that flying a nazi flag is patriotism if you're a german.
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Well, in their mind it might be. Who are you to say.
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Umm...in someone’s mind 2+2 could equal 5. Doesn’t mean thats right. Similarly, a German can think flying a Nazi flag is patriotic. Anyone who isn’t a Nazi themselves will say, no, that’s not patriotic at all and you’re just a pos. My question would be, do YOU think flying the Nazi flag, a symbol of unimaginable oppression, be a symbol of patriotism?
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I am not German and I personally have never flown a Nazi flag. I have one that my great Uncle brought home along with other souvenirs from World War 2 and left to me. When I was a kid I asked him why there were Nazis holding rallies if we fought and defeated them. He said that’s their right because we have something in this country called free speech. I fought for them to have that right, but those people never saw what I saw. If they were in charge you wouldn’t be allowed to fly any flag but that one. It seems the left now believes as the Nazis did.
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You’re once again missing the entire point of the debate. Nowhere am I disputing whether flying the Nazi flag is illegal or unconstitutional. Nowhere.
I know it’s someone’s right, at least in the US. What I’m trying to ask you is that do YOU think that it’s moral, or the right thing to do?

This is what you sound like:
Person A: Some people are saying that 2+2=5. Do you think that’s correct?
Person B: But it’s their constitutional right to do so.

Notice how person B isn’t actually answering the question and is dodging the question?
1 up, 5y
You have to define are you talking about America or Germany? Is it morally correct for an American to fly the Nazi or confederate flag? I don’t moralize for other people as I’m not a tyrant nor do presume superiority over them. It isn’t something I would do, but I don’t make any moral
Judgment on a southerner who flies the flag they grew up with. I reject woke sjw historic revision and celebrate Columbus Day, Christmas, the 4th of July and all other American cultural holidays too. I don’t care if you approve or think it is now immoral.
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Saying that something is wrong because it's hateful isn't tyrannical....what? I have no idea why you're so reticent about condemning people who fly hate symbols. I really don't want to presume that you're some sort of close Nazi. If you support a hate symbol, it is morally incumbent on people who aren't hateful themselves to condemn that expression of hate. That's not condescending nor tyrannical, it's the morally right thing to do. If someone wore a shirt saying that all white people are terrorists, then it's morally right for me to say, "No, that's wrong, and here's why." No tyranny whatsoever. And it's irrelevant whether the Nazi flag is flown in Germany or America. It's wrong in both places.
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Stating your opposition is protected activity as well but making laws denying it is wrong. Why do you require a denouncement? Who are you? Who made you the decider of what hate is? Who made you the arbiter of what is offensive? I find Turkey bacon offensive, do you denounce it? I find the BLM fist to be a symbol of hate, do you denounce it? I personally have not ever been nor supported Nazis or their hate the Jews dogma. So you can rest easy, but I support individual rights for those I disagree with. Particularly, for those I disagree with. Stating your opposition is your right as well as I do whenever they burn the US flag or kneel at the anthem. Do you denounce that? It doesn’t detract from their right to burn it or kneel. You and the left want to use your opposition to prohibit and limit free speech you don’t agree with and force agreement on your causes. That’s UnAmerican and is most certainly tyranny.
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what the f**k, you actually believe germans can fly a flag of a group that killed millions if it formerly ruled germany?
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I have no idea what Germans can do? I’m not German. I believe that they have their own governing rules. Free speech laws in America allows for you to fly any flag you want. It includes the right to burn the national flag. That’s been the law since the countries founding. You disagree?
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no, i wouldn't want the government to supress people flying, but if someone who was german flew the nazi flag, would it be justified as just "being proud of your heritage" like how conservatives justify flying the confederate flag?
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I have no idea whether it justifies it or not. It’s free speech protected by the constitution especially if you disagree with it. Too bad more Americans don’t remember this simple truth that all Americans of both parties for generations agreed on,
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oh my god, i literally just said it shouldn't be supressed. of course it's free speech, but that has nothing to do with this conversation.
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Sure it does if you are talking about America? Are talking about Germans in Germany?
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yes, i'm saying if it could be considered racism or not if you're in germany, because a lot of conservatives say flying the confederate flag isn't racist, just showing "southern pride". would the same be applied if a german in germany used the nazi flag?
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Their are big differences in Germany and the United States. We have a constitution and freedom of speech. Are you Southern? How do you know what it represents to them?
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that's not the point.
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What is the point?
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