Love is love

PREACH

Wait I did something like this-oh well, it's not exact, and besides it's true.

I was going to add a thing about it being inspired by your meme, but I couldn't find your username. sorry about that

Aww thank you!

Here's a question I wish to respectfully ask: Do you consider it homophobic if a Catholic (or similar Christian) fully supports the LGBTQ+ community when it comes to equal rights under the law (civil marriage, tax status, etc), but asks that they in turn respect the Catholic's right to disagree with them on matter such as marriage within a religion?

Legally, it's all protected under the First Amendment of course, but I'm just fishing for answers here.

To cut straight to the point here: I don’t think religion provides a “principled” objection to same-sex marriage anymore than it used to be invoked to object to interracial marriages.

I can't speak for all religions, but as a Catholic I know that all of our beliefs are laid out in the Catechism and defended by Apologists, so there's certainly principle involved.

To be clear, it's NOT an objection to civil marriage; that's not our business. We only object to it within our own ranks, so to speak.

I'm putting this attachment on here because you're acting kinda sus, and I'm thinking your a sneaky little Imposter, aren't you? aren't you? AREN'T YOU?

ho·mo·phobe
/ˈhōməˌfōb/
noun
a person with a dislike of or prejudice against gay people.

you're not showing prejudice against gay people if you just don't exactly agree with them being gay, but if you refuse to marry gay people at your church you kinda are.

I fully support them being married (because that's necessary for certain tax privileges and social benefits that everyone deserves), but I don't think it's fair for anyone to try and change the beliefs of another institution because they disagree with it...I wouldn't sue a Jewish restaurant for refusing to serve me a pulled pork sandwich, since Kosher restaurants can't legally handle pork in a commercial setting. I'd just go to a BBQ joint.

The line between defending your own rights and suppressing those of others is really blurred and very frustrating to delineate, so I understand where you're coming from.

I agree with you on that, but it's harder to determine what's homophobic and what's not because you don't choose to be gay. while a Jewish restaurant can refuse to serve you and pulled pork sandwich because you chose to want one, a gay couple asking to be married at a Catholic church didn't choose to be gay.

Now that you mention that, I'm actually curious as to whether a non-Catholic couple could apply for a civil marriage license and hold the ceremony in a Catholic Church...I don't think the local diocese would allow that to happen in their building, since we generally reserve them for sacramental (religious) ceremonies, but you've piqued my curiosity. I do think my example is still pretty good, since the couple in your rebuttal chose to go to a Catholic building instead of a more open venue. The choice of going to a place that you specifically disagree with was all I was trying to highlight.

Also, since you brought up the notion of choice, could you please enlighten me then on why some people decide to change their sexuality? Why is it seemingly immutable for some and yet others do decide to be straight, or switch from being straight to gay, and yet definitely deny being bi or pan. I've always been curious about that.

Please note that I'm not trying to be rude, silence, or aggravate you with either of my paragraphs, I'm just furthering the conversation for the sake of my own enlightenment. It'd be hypocritical of me, in light of my above comments, to specifically go to a place whose values I somewhat disagree with (this stream) and try to force you 'round to my way of thinking. :)