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Racism is hating someone because of how they were born, hating LGBTQ people is hating them because of the choices they made. End racism. I would never tell anyone to hate anyone else, although I do personally disagree with (but not hate) LGBTQ people. Hating someone because they are born with a different skin color than you is worse.

Understandable

have a great day

I agree totally.

you don't choose to be gay

I don't, but some people do.

then they're not gay, or they didn't actually choose it. No one chooses to be gay or straight or cis or trans or non binary etc, they just are that

Actually, you're wrong.

if you fall in love with someone, you don't CHOOSE to fall in love with them, you just are in love with them. You can hide it, or lie about it, but you can't physically choose to not love them.

I've chosen not to be in love with people.

maybe its because that person said something to you or did something that made you change your mind.

No, it isn't.

no, people are born as LGBTQ.

I'm sorry, could you repeat that in English, because I don't speak Stupid.

excuse me?

but yes, scientifically, LGBTQ people are born as LGBTQ.

That's isn't true.

yes it is lol, give me one piece of evidence that's not true.

We can't assume someone's lifestyle is a result of genetics until it is indicated that it is. Give me good evidence that it is true.

Is true

Studies have shown that, although sexual and romantic orientations can change over time, no-one chooses to be gay and magically turns gay

Studies?

Scientific ones. In case you were wondering

What studies.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/jan/08/homosexuality-gay-choice-psychology

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/sexual-orientation-choice-9582897.html

So while it is entirely possible for someone to choose their sexuality. It is always a subconscious choice (if there is a choice involved). No-one just thinks 'I will be gay now', and poof, they turn gay

Those aren't scientific studies, those are journalist papers.

Can you give me any evidence that people choose to be gay that is more than just 'God says so'

When did I say "God says so"? I never said that. For evidence, I put forth the fact that heterosexual people have become gay.

idk if I should get involved, but as an Asexual, I have investigated my past emotions and as far back as second grade I could see how it made sense for me to be Aro-ace. I personally agree with Festive_Scorpia here.

And can you give me examples? How many of them made the conscious decision to become gay, how many thought they were straight but turned out gay, and how many made an unconscious decision

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my bad

this stream was meant to be a non toxic stream, you just got flagged.

Okay, you can flag me. I support free speech.

i dont think LGBTQ+ people choose to be gay. they think they are straight, or they dont like who they are, so they go transgender, or they do things that make them figure out that they are gay. if people choose, why do they have such a hard time coming out? i would choose racism also, but different logic. its been more historically violent than LGBTQ hate.

What CULE_DOOD said

I agree :P

those are both very bad things, but racism is a way bigger problem. if i could i'd choose both, but historically racism has been a much bigger menace than homophobia, so racism.

Only one. That's the point of the question. That's why its in the Think Tank

nope, just one

how about just both

how about just one

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End racism. Same logic an CULE_DOOD

Probably racism, as so much racism is unconscious bias, and is much more difficult to stop than conscious bias. Homophobia, on the other hand, is almost always conscious bias, and therefore much easier (although still difficult) to end

I would end racism. You can't decide what race you are. Even though I definitely want to end LGBTQ hate, I don't think there's as much of it, and I'm noticing that even though it's against some peoples religions, they're learning to be cool with it. So in all, I would end racism first, then continue trying to end other issues like LGBTQ hate and sexism.

you don't choose to be lgbtq+ but ok

Well, you do have a point. I just feel like racism is so much worse than lgbtq hate. That’s my opinion, there’s no evidence to back it up, so if I’m wrong, please correct me and I might change my answer.