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A: THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST THE CHURCH.
SCRIPTURE REFERENCE-MATTHEW 16:18

B: WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS IN CHRIST.
SCRIPTURE REFERENCE-ROMANS 8:37

C: JESUS MUST REIGN UNTIL HE HAS PUT ALL HIS ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.
SCRIPTURE REFERENCE-1 CORINTHIANS 15:25

D: THINGS WILL GET SO BAD THAT THE ONLY WAY FOR GOD TO SAVE
HIS CHURCH IS THROUGH A COVERT EVACUATION PLAN
KNOWN AS THE RAPTURE.
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I'd attest that any action by God is extraordinary, since He, Himself, is extraordinary. That being said, it's only extraordinary to us since we are only mere mortals who cannot fully comprehend things that are of eternal nature. To God, it's just Him doing His will the way that He sees fit.

I agree to an extent that God doesn't have to rely on scripture. Only because all scripture came from Him, and so scripture itself is reliant upon Him. Which is why we can stand firm on what the scripture says. And throughout scripture, there is an overarching pattern that was first introduced in the Garden of Eden, all the way through to the closing benediction of Revelation. And that pattern is that God is redeeming mankind back to Himself.

This was the plan all along. God revealed this plan when He first introduced the gospel to Adam and Eve, after the fall. Instead of executing them on the spot for violating His command, which He would have had every right to do so, He instead revealed His plan of grace and redemption in the promise that "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heal." Gen. 3:15.

Since there is, as the KJV puts it in James 1:17, no variation with God, then we can only assume that He meant what He said in Isiah 9:7 in the prophecy of the coming Messiah, Jesus Christ, that "Of the increase of His government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over His kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will do this."

This kind of dialogue, in Isaiah 9:7, Genesis 3:15, and the references A, B, and C that I mentioned in my question, along with countless other passages of scripture all share a common theme of victory. Which is why I question where the whole ideology of a pre-trib rapture falls in line with the rest of scripture. Especially since the scripture is clear that God's kingdom, which He has appointed Jesus as King over with all authority, is "at hand", here on earth. And it's our calling through the great commission to advance His kingdom in Jesus's authority, not to walk in defeat waiting to be rescued out of here because the oppression is becoming too great.
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Thank you for this.

I'd count in some errors in transcription and translation as also some "corrections" made by the institutions of the churches.
Beside what possibly went wrong, an eternal truth:
Matthew 5 resp. 5:8 in particular.
Corinthians 13
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A part of the Bible seem to be written history.
Parts of it got transferred by mouth and not by scripture first.
if i understood correctly.
You know these somehow funny or surpsing outcomes of the childrends game
called "silent mail" or "chinese whispers".
What went in into the game at first place and comes out of it at the other end might differ
vastly.

So i found out, the Story about Noah and his Arche is a story about a man, a peasant employed by a ruler, whom had to save the rulers animals from a flood of the nile, according to what i've could read in a book about the sumerians. They had wells all along the nile, to measure the water levels. Muezzin had the job to watch these and report at certain times each day. so they could approximate, there will be a flood coming down the nile. Noahs task, given by his boss and ruler: save the cattle.
The arche itself were made of papyrus and the first and biggest ship for this kind of purpose at its time. Everyone was highly surprised Noah could save so much of the rulers animals. so noahs adventure looked like a sensational task from a hero at its given point in time.
and as it is with the most of the stories told by sailors, nautical yarn/sailors yarn.
The story evolved over the time.

According to this insight, i'd rather believe in a deeper sense or meaning of what's written in the bible
as into the literal meaning at all costs.
Is it love?
Is it lovely?

Why shall a god be willing to destroy his creation?
A god possibly want's to punish somebody, maybe.
but many so seen punishments were the result of natures forces and people called it a punishment because either they felt guilty by hemselves or somebody else watched it and saw it as such.
God created cause and effect. Otherwise we would have to question god himself and even an Einstein said: "God does not play dice with the universe." Nothing is pure chance, we just have too less
precise informations to evaluate abolutely correct.

Parts if his creation are natures forces and they can be dangerous for all other beings.
Humans included. The forces of the nature, important to keep an eternally ongong im/balance.
My interpretation so far.
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Not sure if i understood your question correctly.

One thing i learned through all of this:
Extraordinairy situations deserve exraordinairy actions.
God wasn't a buerocrat who relied on a firm scripture for everything in every little detail and/or situation.
Following this consequence, it means, the past and history can only serve us examples, analogies.
God gave the beings a free will. Look what they made with it.

So, if a God who created all of this would have to decide, why would he wanted to destroy all this beauty just because a few do not follow?

I'd prefer the King James Version.
An nobody else dared to comment.
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Sorry to just now get back to you on your response. As far as the story of the flood goes, I am convinced that it isn't a myth or some legend. It is in fact an account of historical events, with deep spiritual meaning as well. It further reveals the holiness and righteousness of God. God created the universe, and all it contains, for His glory; with mankind given the most personal attention since we were made in His image. And since we bear His image, and since He is holy, it only stands to reason that He demands holiness from us. But obviously, our sin has caused us to fail, and with God also being just, He cannot allow for our sin to go unpunished.

As sin continued to abound throughout the generations until the days of Noah, and the intentions of every man's hearts were "only evil continually" (Gen. 6:5), it grieved God to His core, and it was time to bring judgment to the whole earth. But since He had made a promise to Adam and Eve in the garden to restore mankind back to Himself through her seed, and since God cannot sin against Himself, He chose Noah and his family, and showed unmerited grace to them through salvation in the ark, to preserve the seed of Eve through the flood.

Even though God destroyed the earth with the flood, He showed mercy by saving the world through the 8 members of Noah's family whose lives were spared. The ark was both literal, and metaphoric. It was used to save the lives of Noah and his family in the first judgment, as well as pointed to the future salvation of the world through Jesus Christ from the last judgement.

Our sins are still very much a severe issue for us today. And God's holy and just view of sin has not changed. He still cannot allow for our sin to go unpunished. Our sins are a federal offense to God, and demands a payment. That's why Roman's 6:23 says "the wages of sin is death." Death and eternal judgment in the lake of fire is the only way that we ourselves can settle that payment for our sin. But God, also being full of grace and mercy, provided a substitute for us by sending His Son, Jesus Christ to the earth, born of a virgin, and living a perfect, sinless life so that He could become the atonement for our sins. He offered Himself to be crucified on the cross, bearing our sins upon Himself, and took the full blunt of God's wrath and judgement, that was intended for us. Because of His sacrifice, our eternal debt to God for our sin has been paid in full.
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Referring to the term "evacuation plan" i am reminded at the Movie 2012,
why do people think, god would rescue a few privileged asshats before he saves these whose have to suffer from the former mentioned ones?
Who gave these people with a high degrees of haugthyness this lame idea?
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And anyone who repents/turns away from their sin, and believes that Jesus is who He says He is, and that He died and was buried, and risen again and now rules the kingdom at the right hand of His Father in heaven, will be justified and will stand before God as though we have never sinned on the day of judgement.
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WHICH ONE DOESN'T FIT? A: THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST THE CHURCH. SCRIPTURE REFERENCE-MATTHEW 16:18 B: WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS IN CHRIST. SCRIPTURE REFERENCE-ROMANS 8:37 C: JESUS MUST REIGN UNTIL HE HAS PUT ALL HIS ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET. SCRIPTURE REFERENCE-1 CORINTHIANS 15:25 D: THINGS WILL GET SO BAD THAT THE ONLY WAY FOR GOD TO SAVE HIS CHURCH IS THROUGH A COVERT EVACUATION PLAN KNOWN AS THE RAPTURE. SCRIPTURE REFERENCE-N/A