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I believe in God, I'll say that upfront.

The big bang theory, which most people believe, states that the big bang was the universe expanded from a point of singularity. And space didn't grow around the singularity. The singularity itself expanded. Thus, there is no middle. Imagine the universe as the surface of a sphere that you stretch, only 3d instead of 2d. If you expand the sphere, the surface of the sphere does to. Now draw some dots on there. As you expand the sphere, the dots move apart. However the surface has no center. You can look at any point, and it looks like the center. Everything moves away from it, but that happens anywhere on the surface. This is why you will never find a center to the universe. Everywhere and nowhere is the center. Everything is moving apart.

To answer the inevitable question of what I believe in terms of Big bang vs. God, I will say this: God ways are incomprehensible to us mortals. Do we ever look at rocks and consider the soul of every particle in every atom in the rock? Do we consider how they can just move themselves when god commands? Where does this energy come from? What even is the nature of energy? The possibility of the bing bang is as incomprehensible as the nature of the priesthood. Natural laws are the laws Our Father in Heaven uses to accomplish his works. The priesthood, spirits, and energy itself? all natural. We just don't understand. God may have used the big bang to create our universe, or the universe is eternal, like him. Humans can't understand eternity in the slightest. Our mere mortal minds think in terms of something starting and ending, but not everything does. We cannot comprehend the nature of truth with our limited minds. My dream is to be righteous enough for exaltation so I can one day know understand the mysteries of God for myself. I still have a long way to go, of course.

Anyway, that took a sort of tangent there at the end, but I don't really know how else to answer a question so fundamental about our existence. Hope this helps!

well, there are a LOT more religions then Christianity, but if we were to get rid of ALLL of them, maybe we could look to science, use the Big Bang theory, or just accept the universe was always here

Idt the universe always being here makes any sense, b/c that would mean something prolly would have 2 b outside of time, which could mean we could find some place where we don’t age.
Also religion & science are not opposites, no matter what scientists (most of whom shirk their responsibility as scientists) imply.

fair enough, although, the science of the earth’s creation, VS is creaTOR is pretty different, one thinks of why, the other thinks of WHO, but ye, you’ve got a point

Also the chances of our earth being inhabitable are low. It’s a low odd that u’d have all these complex life forms in a world that just so happens to be inhabitable. Earth has way too many things that have like no chance of just randomly generating themselves, but putting them together, the chances are just ridiculously low to the point where it’s just impossible. :D

so, we’re the lucky ones

Not especially. The climate of earth has evolved as life has evolved, and life has helped shape the evolution of the climate. Where design might be evident is in the structure of atoms and their propensity to form life.

Yea, except we’re way too lucky. If u remember the coin toss thing between Sanders & Hillary in 2016, where Hillary won all 6 tosses, yeah, that’s a low odd. But our world existing would be something like if you rounded up 25,000 men & 25,000 women & had them do 25,000 coin tosses and the women won all the coin tosses. It’s not luck; it’s simply impossible. Your DNA has a specific way it has to be designed for you to live. If one thing malfunctions, u are not human. Matter of fact, if u want 2 find evidence 4 a God, study the complexity of DNA. Even Richard Dawkins says design is obvious in DNA & biology. He just doesn’t seem to want the designer to be God.

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Yes i was actually surprised 2 find apologetics is based off of logic, b/c that’s what u hear isn’t true. But I’ve heard this from 2 agnostics. One read Stephen C Meyer’s book and said he had 2 give up Darwinism, even though it was so beautiful to him. He says he doesn’t understand why the scientific community is so arrogant 2ward religion (even though he isn’t Christian) & feels it’s unjustified. The other (who was a PK & left the faith later) said he was an agnostic, & that atheism was an arrogant position b/c it’s not rlly provable even if it’s true.

But ya it’s an intriguing field. I’d encourage u 2 explore it.

No, it’s making a claim that one doesn’t exist.

Everyone is aware apologetics takes a conclusion, and walks you there via mental gymnastics.

The whole purpose is to try to legitimize fantasy with propaganda and pseudoscientific nonsense.

I feel pify for people who don't have the critical thinking skills to identify disinformation like apologetics.

U have clearly not seen very well-done apologetics. There are crappy apologetics, but I’m not talking about that & u’re just either throwing what u saw on all apologetics or echoing what u’ve heard from others.

It doesn't matter how well someone slings bullshit, it is still bullshit.

You can't start with a conclusion, and then use evidence to fit it.

You follow evidence to a conclusion.

Didn’t u just do that? U clearly have a bias. U assumed no Christians follow the process of logic. Have u heard of J Warner Wallace & Josh McDowell? Both radical atheists who investigated Scripture & became Christians b/c of it. Lee Strobel studied 2 get his wife out of Christianity & became a Christian himself. & jsyk, Strobel is the type that likes 2 c the best argument from both sides, even when he comes in with a belief. So he honestly inspected religion, even though he didn’t believe in it. Josh McDowell was mad at God at age 11, & writing Evidence that Demands a Verdict didn’t immediately make his heart want 2 follow God.

It’s not like u have 2 have a conclusion b4 u investigate 2 even be Christian. That argument is extremely presumptuous & fallacious & has no bearing on reality. I don’t fall 4 such condescending speech, b/c that’s also fallacious. What do u rlly know about the purpose of apologetics? If that’s our mission, why don’t we go around preaching the gospel of Vision, or the gospel of Thanos, or the gospel of Superman, or the gospel of Doomsday? Just b/c it’s from fantasy that was made now? Everyone knows it’s dumb to do that b/c the characters are made up.
Well, Jesus lived, and was deified (there was controversy over it) in His day. He was not made up; He was a being who performed signs & claimed deity & caused controversy about it. And then He got killed, but His word spread. If you tried 2 spread the gospel of Wonder Woman, it would nvr work.

Your anecdotes are not impressive. Far more people are statistically losing religion.

The fastest way to becoming a non believer is to actually read the bible.

https://apnews.com/article/65873e1b84dd4157a22643f088c806e4

Fastest growing religion in America is "none"

Ppl don’t determine truth. Also, many ppl that leave the faith leave for emotional reasons? like Michael Shermer.

The ppl i mentioned left or hated the faith for emotional reasons, & came back 4 evidence reasons.

People determine truth.

Science and Critical Thinking are great tools

Hold up. U have to not know much about DNA to say that. I have studied DNA & read books from DNA specialists. DNA appears very designed. And it isn’t even possible for DNA to come from a mutation. However, i won’t put the info about it here b/c I’d be here 4 lots of days trying. It’s heady stuff & it’s very complex.

Memeslammer like, Universe couldn't have always been there, but God could have....

This disingenuous user then explains that it is impossible to live where we do. When in fact, we live in the only place we could have lived, which has a 100% chance of happening.

Science has explained biodiversity, these old, scripted arguments are bad.

The universe isn’t a being... it doesn’t create. Us coming out of nowhere has a 0% chance of happening, especially considering the complexity of everything, including small Protozoa. Conversion of angular momentum disproves the Big Bang.

So u assume there’s an 100% chance of us being here just b/c we’re here, but then disinclude God as an option?

Where did we come from?

Conversion of angular momentum is a law, which, if the Big Bang occurred, Venus, Uranus, and Pluto disobey. Venus is the worst though. That’s more of a mathematical topic tho.

That third paragraph literally makes no sense. How can you say apologist arguments are garbage and say stuff like this? So we’re here just because we’re here and there’s no explaining past it? If that’s the case, why r u so hostile to the idea of a God in the first place? This argument states “We are, because we are.”

I briefly have, but since education is controlled by evolutionists, ppl only think something is proof if it agrees with evolution. They won’t investigate religion & just discredit all stuff related to it as garbage. Macroevolution is full of nonsense assumptions, but no one rlly pays attention to that. Have u heard of the 14 presuppositions?

Why soread fake news like this, what use is this?

Well, u can “debunk” it by calling it fake. Has no bearing on reality. U must rlly think I’m like the news media which is full of liars full of it. I ain’t.

God will use natural laws to create. Some laws we don't understand, maybe, but other we do. God could have created our universe through the big bang and created us through evolution.

ye, it’s a possibility

You, sir, just hit a bullseye.

Well, I personally don't believe in god. I think humans evolved from something, somehow. We may never find out how this universe was made. It depends on your beliefs.

It would take hundreds of years, I reckon

Do u believe in God?