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Should someone explain to him that many of his supporters will be too sick or too dead to vote by November at this rate?

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Depends on how you explain the numbers. These numbers only count those who actually infected (or at least who came out with a positive test, as there might be more as not everybody is being tested, since the description clearly states "confirmed").

Loads of people who bear the virus won't notice it at all, and those who get ill mostly only suffer for a few weeks, and the death rate is actually RELATIVELY small (especially compared to other diseases that scared of humanity in the past with the death rate was a lot higher. Cancer and aids had 100% death rate back in the day were discovered. COVID-19 has as far as I know now not even 50%).

This taken into account these numbers do say nothing about the people who actually fall ill and even less about the numbers of lives taken. What is of course strongly implied by many is that Trump (or at least his groupies) hoped he could use the COVID-19 virus as his winning strategy for the presidential elections in order to make people believe it was a biological attack from China (which miserably backfired on them). If that's true I guess that didn't work....

Now the virus has become more of a political game than an actual threat to humanity, or at least it's treated that way, to be honest. All countries are bragging about doing it better than others and that others are doing bad, and Russia wanted to be the first with a vaccine (that the rest of the world now doubts to be safe, for good reasons), etc. etc. etc. So unfortunately Trump is not the only one.
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those who get ill mostly only suffer for a few weeks, """ https://whyy.org/articles/these-covid-19-patients-survived-but-they-never-recovered/
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That article only shines a light on some of the cases... That does not make a trustworthy image of the COVID-19 virus in general... Might as well put on an article on people who slipped over a banana peel who got themselves in a wheelchair forever in it and use it as a statement that banana peels will get you in a wheelchair.... So your statement is propagandistic and only narrowed down to a few cases for which this counts. So you "NO" is invalidated by using the wrong article as source no matter how true the content may be.

Your come-back to me is actually more dangerous than the virus itself. The virus can only be beaten once nonsensical information, or assumptions based on half-truths, and deeming those assumptions as clear evidence to refute facts are removed from all kinds of conversation. The one-sighted views on what the media tells (the views on it, not the information itself) are the real problem here.

Also note that I said "most"... that is not "all"

Cut short, it's clear you want to discuss a discussion of which you've proven with one word and one link that you are not qualified to discuss it.
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I shared just one. There are many, I know people personally who are still not right after catching it in March. There are also unknown long term effects and damage to the lungs and heart, that there simply is not enough data yet to wrap our heads around. I think we agree this is no joke. I think we agree that accurate information is imperative. I think we can agree we (society, health professionals) still do not know all we need to know.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02335-z
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Yeah, and I've seen articles about more people who are completely free of COVID-19 even tested negative afterward, and of whom some became ill soon after again due to getting re-infected.

The issue with COVID-19 is that the world never responded adequately. From the very start. First by thinking the virus would remain in China (which was pretty naive), but when the virus mysteriously popped up in Italy in a village that was in no way connected to China at all, you could already count 1+1 to come to the conclusion the virus would actually make a low number of people ill, yet still be able to infect other people, and thus, the virus must have made its way to Italy in an indirect manner. Still people got no further than just locking down Italy. When the rest of the world locked down we were already at a point such lockdowns would be like closing your borders for an upcoming war while all enemy armies are already on your side of the border.

And I do think scientists know more. But there's another issue. The political nature of the issue. It's like match if the Netherlands is with it's more open lockdown doing better than France who insisted on a North-Korean like lockdown, and France and Belgium badmouthing the Netherlands for "experimenting on their own people", and well, basically all countries were in on that. And now Russia tries to steal the show with presenting a first vaccine and the rest of the world doubting that vaccine works or is safe, due to Russia's reputation in general, and so we can rant on. The face mask discussion has also become more political than scientific. How can we possibly trust any information either in the form of numbers or in the form of medical facts/findings/whatever?

And you gotta admit that when two medics, one claiming face masks help and the other claiming they are actually more dangerous than not wearing them, does work confusing. Right? And both claim to have medical evidence too.

The virus issue has become a joke, and the one laughing hardest is the virus itself. I've been trying for months to try to filter sense from nonsense, and to also look a bit further than the media tells you. I do have base knowledge of microbiology (professional training I never finished), and I've also do studies in dealing with information... And if you do that, you'll fall from one shocking amazement into another (perhaps that's a bit of a Dutch way of speaking, but you get the picture I hope).

tbc
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I was there when the aids panic was at its peak, but as I was still young then I could not phantom all information I got back then in full as I can now. Looking back on that time, I see many many parallels with the COVID-19 pandemic now. Loads of nonsense going around. I've even heard people who were afraid back then that if they masturbated and got covered in their own sperm that they would get aids in that process (which is actually nonsense. How can you infect yourself with a virus you don't carry?) and that touching people with aids could get you infected (which is also untrue as you need a direct blood or sexual contact for that), and so on... And of course, the church still opposing the use of condoms back then was also an issue then.
If you think that aids was just a guaranteed death (as there were no medicines we have now to suppress it) it's actually depressing how much nonsense people shared back then. And we had no internet back then, and still the lies went fast.

Back to COVID-19, I really wonder when we look back on this pandemic 20 years later what we will think about the things we find then on old internet sites, old papers and news broadcasts. Oh, bummer!
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As an interesting aside, read an article that a lot of the younger folks that got it and had mild symptoms and relative 'recovery' are now having to deal with being stigmatized and their friends simply wont hang with them anymore. Its going to be a long while before all the effects of this have come and gone.
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An Italian study of patients who had been severely ill surveyed people two months after their initial diagnoses. It found only 13% were completely free of any COVID-19-related symptoms.
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13% of the how many actual infections? (Not only the confirmed ones... ALL of them). Since most people don't even suffer at all, and the studies only focusing on the really bad cases, 13% should most likely be doubled or even tripled in the true numbers. The lack of recognition that the virus is not as lethal as most people think is actually what makes it so dangerous. Sounds contradictional, but that is the truth. The people who hardly suffer or don't even suffer at all are still contagious. They are also the people about whom that entire discussion about a lockdown and facemask obligations are based, and they are also the reason, why all face masks and lockdowns appear hardly effective as the virus still manages to wriggle its way through, so you always need some loopholes in order to make some needed things get done. So far most numbers have proven to be inadequate. Also, and that is also proven... The antibodies against COVID-19, only remain in your body for 1 or 2 months (basically beating one of the prime functions of vaccines), and as such (and that is also proven) the time before you can get yourself infected again, and also get ill again, is extremely short. One counter theory is that some people will get stronger against the virus. So "months after their infection" is not saying anything at all.

Actually what you try to deny are the very core issues that make COVID-19 cause the world so much trouble, causing medics to be pretty desperate in their attempt to get things under control. Ebola could for example never get this far, as the symptoms come quick and kill you in days if not medically treated in time. It's impossible for Ebola to be invisible. COVID-19 is thanks to it's low numbers of ill people (and loads of them didn't even test themselves thinking they just had a regular flu), and only a few really getting in the horror scenarios the virus can operate a long time without being seen, until it gets to a group of apparently weaker people, who get seriously ill, suffering for longer term or even get killed. COVID-19 is a sneaker... Not wanting too much at once, and make a bigger strike at the right moment. Seems to be very successful in that too. And that is the problem!
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Has anyone ever treated a pandemic well? It has only stopped when atleast 40-50% of the population had been infected, you can't really do much but try to slow it down.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797
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Do you see a difference between the citizens of New Zealand and U.S.A?
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Decades of preparation..... tossed out the window by a crying whiny incompetent bankrupt game show tv host.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm
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https://khn.org/news/evidence-shows-obama-team-left-a-pandemic-game-plan-for-trump-administration/
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Fauci doesn't look like an idiot.. he looks like a Martian agent standing behind the Pred watching his plans cause chaos among poor earthlings
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That is an image of Mitch McConnell not Dr. Fauci
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I was talking about Fauci tho
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The Government of U.S.A cannot explain if you need to wear masks, the people come out and protest because they don't want to wear masks. It's the people's mistake just as much as the government's
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Kiwis are Cool
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PM Ardren and the New Zealand Parliament has done two things in their country that the U.S. hasn't: controlled the spread of Covid-19 and passed sensible gun safety laws after their FIRST mass shooting.
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Yep,
BTW was the shooter sentenced to death?
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Not yet; his sentencing trial won't begin until August 24th.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12345091
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look at new zealand. yes it is hard to slow down a pandemic but if they can do it we can, we just need a person who knows what they r doing and cares
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no, you need people who won;t use a pandemic as political leverage. but unfortunately, you got the Dems
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don;t even get me started on that clown!
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No they won't, most of his supporters don't live in the blue states where the deaths are happening ...thank f**k! :)
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I stand corrected!!

Isn't de santis a "never trumper" tho'? maybe not, maybe i'm just clutching at straws there! :p
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Anyone with a shred of decency, intellect, or genuine concern for the USA, from any party, is a never trumper.
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why? what's so bad about him?
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Well that requires 3+ decades worth of info, too much for here. Start with "Central Park 5" move on to discrimination suite, then about 6 bankruptcies, then trump university fraud, then tax fraud, then Duetche bank, then trump mortgage, airlines, etc. ... His sick sexual comments on his daughter, his cheating and daily lying, his love affair with Putin (pull up Helsinki) his love affair with Kim Jung il "He wrote me a beautiful love letter and we are in love".. his contstant childish moronic insults to everyone from veterans, to everyone in about every instituriton. His fraud charity, how his entire circle is in prison or soon going. Wont realease his taxes cause it will prove what a fraud he is, Its freaking endless.

He is beyond stupid, and completely unqualified and unfit for office. There are many on all sides of the isle that see and hear it every day.

"Nobody knows more than me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FoXolEFins

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53881222
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"the central park five" the five had already admitted guilt before Trump made his comments, he retracted his comments when it became clear that the five's confession was coerced. look at the comments some Dems made on the officer who "murdered" Michael Brown ...did they change their comments when confronted with the actual truth? Nope, and six years later, they're still pushing that lie

"bankruptcies" he ran a construction business in the busiest city in the world, got burned a few times but recovered and went on to make millions. I recall watching a ton of Trump interviews from the 70's onward where hosts (inc. Oprah) lauded him for bouncing back bigger and stronger from those.

"sick sexual comments on his daughter" yeah, gross, i would agree ...but IMO those pale into insignificance when compared to Biden's behaviour around women in general, and young girls in particular.

Trump University/Tax Fraud/Deutsche bank/Mortgage/Airlines/Fraud charity ....I know absolutely *nothing* about, but I will look at them

Daily cheating and Lying? Aw, c'mon man!! name me ONE single dem who doesn't do this on a daily basis...just about Trump! I could dig out a thousand examples of this, I could dig out one or two from the DNC virtualcon this week!

Russia/NK ...POTUS wants to open dialogues with two (allegedly!) of the worlds nuclear powers ...and that's a bad thing? because Russia meddled in your election? Russia probably meddles in most elections ...just like the US does...remember that time the US helped Boris Yeltsin win the Russian election? remember that time the Obama administration interfered in the Ukraine? Remember that time the US got caught spying on Angela Merkl? Remember that time Obama spied on Trump? All Governments do this kinda shit all the time.

Childish moronic insults ...welp, I don't recall him insulting a Vet ...but I bet he had a darned good reason now :p but as for the rest....yeah go for it! that's one of the reasons why we all love him, he takes no shit from nobody...and he is funny AF with it. I wish more politicians were like that tbh :p

His entire circle in prison ...Who and Why? anything to do with Trump himself? nope. What about Clinton's circle? better your circle ends up in jail than dead, IMHO

Taxes ...who cares? Didn't Trump suggest that politicians be audited *after* they leave office? I'd love to see that and I think it would be far more revealing than seeing their taxes from before they took office, wouldn't you?
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:p
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Ok if you are not going to do your homework I cant continue. I have known of the asshole for 30 years.

TRANSCRIPT
Trump on Central Park Five
President Trump refused on Tuesday to apologize for his harsh comments in 1989 about the Central Park Five, the men who as teenagers were wrongly convicted of a rape in New York City.
“Mr. President, will you apologize to the Central Park Five? They’ve been exonerated, there have been videos and movies shown about the case, and you came out with a full-page ad saying that they should die, that they should have the death penalty. Do you — ” “Why do you bring that question up now? It’s an interesting time to bring it up. You have people on both sides of that. They admitted their guilt. If you look at Linda Fairstein and if you look at some of the prosecutors, they think that the city should never have settled that case. So we’ll leave it at that.”

They were kids, falsely accused or no, what business did he have getting involved?

If you think handing over data on citizens to an enemy nation, literally begging them to hack us, is aok... well, "sad"

You think he would have 2 nickles if not for daddies money and contacts? sad.

If you think shitstains daily lies now numbering in the thousands even compares to Nixons... sad.

If you think a world leader should be insulting and childish... thats just "sad"

You dont think his entire inner circle being arrested for fraud and Roger Stone for witness tampering is an indication on him? sad.

comparing mr. pussy grabber/ mr walk in on underage girls getting changed and bragging, to biden? ok, I dont have the patience for this. You dont know diddly about him.

Trump said he would release his taxes right after the election, he is being charge with fraud and we yap, as a NY'r all those millions he has stolen over the years came out of our pockets.

If you cant see what a ridiculous, incompetent, and corrupt fool he is, well thats on you.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-insults-american-veterans-families-2019-10
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I will do my homework, there's a lot here that I don't know about and I will look it up and get back ...guaranteed! I'm not scared to admit when I'm wrong ... *when* I'm wrong
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He praises and helps our enemies and mocks our allies.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2020-08-20/americas-closest-allies-reject-trump-administrations-iran-bid-at-un

again, we could literally go 200 pages of double sided text... I can only sum it up with he is a legitmate fraud, moron, and shitstain, with no redeeming qualities, who has hurt this nation and even the world beyond belief. Lets not forget the destruction of our post office, schools, and healthcare and faith in our democracy.
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Who signed the Amazon/USPS deal, because *that's* what's destroying the post office, not Trump.

What about the schools?

healthcare ...how did Obamacare work out for you? most people i speak with were out hundreds of dollars a month with that and couldn't even choose their own doctors

The Dems don't believe in democracy, they believe in rule by fear and shame .."do what we say or be cancelled"

and contrary to popular belief, Trump has NOT hurt your nation. I'm in the UK, I can assure there are MANY of us, many many many of us, who think the better of the US for electing him. Trump is way more popular in Europe than you could imagine.

*WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY* more popular ;)
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Well, I have a place and many friends in The Netherlands, so maybe in Glasgow... but not the EU.
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I think you'll find the Netherlands will be changing it's tune very soon ;) and the rest of the EU
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/2020/08/16/separating-fact-from-fiction-on-trump-and-the-post-officeand-why-it-matters/#215c90013d74
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The most pressing reason?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm
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you seem quite rational for someone on the left, so I'm hoping you can take that question (below) beyond the usual "wall", "Very fine people", "all mexicans are rapists and murderers" bs that i normally get with this
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and im not "on the left"... I might of considered voting for Kasinich.. and I would take any normal republican over shitstain in a heartbeat.
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Yeah i could go with that, i liked Denis Kasinich...spoke a lot of sense in a down to earth way, would've been a good president IMO
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youre a trumpette moron then...and not an AMERICAN--- f**k you traitor

https://fortune.com/2020/06/25/coronavirus-cases-us-map-states-florida-texas-arizona-california-north-south-carolina-georgia-oklahoma-state-by-state-breakdown-numbers-covid-19/
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I'm British, so technically ...* YOU'RE* the traitor! :p
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That's the reply i was looking for on the Marty McFly one! LOLz!!
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