Its Blank

I'll say it again: Being a pedophile isn't illegal - having sex with minors is (at least in most of the world). I have no problem accepting pedophiles into the community and talk about their daily struggles with them. I do not believe people under a certain age can give consent although the actual age is somewhat hard to pin down. In lieu of a better way to judge I will consider the widely accepted 18 years as the mark, but this might be something to discuss. Either way, there are other, legal forms of "release" people often forget (like hentai or legal age people who just look younger for example). Not every pedophile is a criminal and we would do well to remember that. And we also shouldn't forget that in some countries being homosexual or at least acting on it are still illegal.

That's just disgusting. Pedophiles are Adults who are attracted to minors, and just the thought of that makes me want to puke. Adults aren't meant to have those types of relationships with children. And, they make the lgbt+ community look bad, because almost everyone is against them. Do you think 6ix 9ine should be out of jail?

Like I said, being attracted to minors is not the problem - it's acting upon that attraction. And I never said, people who molest children shouldn't be in jail. They absolutely should be. But there definitely are people out there who are attracted to children and don't act on it. Just as there are gay people out there married to a woman with children because in their society it is "disgusting" to be gay. And before you say anything, yes, I know there is a difference. A grown man can give consent so two grown men certainly can have a legitimate relationship even when it's not legal. A child cannot. The age when someone is able to understand what consent is and all of the consequences of such a decision is different for different people and isn't easy to pin down. The legal age might be 18 but there are certainly people older than 18 who are still not mature or educated enough to understand what sex and consent are and in my eyes it should also be illegal to have sex with them. If there are people under the age of 18 who can give consent will probably always be open for debate. Afterall, it is fairly normal for teenagers to have sex (with other teenagers). Of course, there is a difference between two teenagers, both still experimenting and figuring out how this all works, and an adult with much more experience and a teenager. All I'm saying is wherever you draw the line it's always gonna be imperfect. Obviously, there are extreme cases of pedophilia where someone is attracted to very young children, even toddlers or babies. It might be much harder to keep those feelings in check, there haven't been many studies about this. But in any case if it is hard for a pedophile to resist the urge they should just keep away from children altogether and perhaps even get help from professionals. And I am certainly not against keeping offenders locked up. All I am saying is that what happens inside someone's head shouldn't immediately get them judged if they don't act upon it. I have certainly thought about murdering someone. Am I a murderer? Until I actually do it, no. Why would that be different for a pedophile? I think we should talk about what problems they have to fight with instead of guilting them into their own closet for just thinking differently. That is no different than people telling you that being gay is wrong and you should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking about it. We need communication to understand each other.

That is a valid point. It is (somewhat) okay to like ( some ) minors, but please don't act on it, and try to seek help. I appreciate you taking the path of kindness and staying civilized and using valid information. You were reasonable, and you are more convincing than most. I appreciate your sincerity. I don't agree they should be a part of lgbtq+, but I can see where you are coming from. Have a nice day.
(I understand that there are bad pedophiles, like JefferyStone, just want to clarify that)

Thank you for listening (or reading, I guess). And I absolutely agree that there are "bad seeds" in every group of people. I mean, how many men have molested women because they just couldn't keep it in their pants? They also should be locked up in my opinion and get help and, if that doesn't work, just shouldn't ever get out again. I mean, I still think some form of therapy should be mandatory for everyone early on before something can happen. Treat it as part of sex education. And later in life you should have to take "refreshers" every so often, especially in a work place with many employees.
Sorry, for the sidetrack there. My point is, there are offenders like that in every group, but as long as we know the whole group or a significantly large amount of them, we just know that most of them are completely ok. I know more men who don't abuse women than men who do. So, I don't think of all men as rapists. The problem is that the only time we hear about pedophiles is on the news when someone molested a child. We only know about the bad ones. So, we assume they're all bad. And while there is a chance that is true, I really doubt it. But as long as we categorically demonize them all none of them feel comfortable enough to talk about it. And for one, that means we won't ever know if the group maybe is much bigger and most of them would never go too far, but also keeping all that stuff bottled up inside you might actually create more pedophiles to become "the bad one".

I don't know if I actually would want them to join a group like this because there are so many kids here. I think a lot of them would not be ready for this discussion and - just in case - you don't want to put pedophiles into contact with a bunch of kids who have their guard down because it's a "safe space". Maybe we'd need an "adult LGBTQ+" group for that. 🤔 Might also make the discussion more fruitful.

I feel like with your last point, we should just keep it all in one group. I think that there's different communitys within the community (communityception lol) here are some to list a few.
-the "I really don't wanna be gay" people
-the grown-up people
-the drysphoric people
And I think that pedophiles would go in the "mature" place if they ever joined. I personally think that the help you mentioned, going out with people who look young, but aren't minors, is a great way to work their emotions into more controllable ones. I also strongly agree with your statement about bottled up emotions. I like the way you think, toots.

😉👍

:3

Agreed!

true

Was queer

They aren't