Sure, if the sex stream degenerates into actual discussion... does that happen? I don't think I've ever checked it out!
I think we can agree that what is generally considered attractive, is often nothing more than the media (hollywood media, fashion media, etc.) telling us what we should find attractive. Of course, in many cases, it's nothing more than naked capitalism under the guise of changing fashions, styles, etc. I'm normally a-OK with naked capitalism, but it does require a person to open their eyes and be able to tell when they're being told what to do, just so someone else can get their money.
A really good example of that, imo, is makeup. Oh my gawd, I feel sorry for a woman who looks like she might be pretty, but you can't tell because she has on so much makeup that she almost looks like a clown. If women want to wear makeup that's fine, but for the women I was involved with, up to and of course including my wife, I have always said the less makeup the better. If they want cover some blemishes, or whatever, then sure. But caking it on when you know damn well they look good (or I wouldn't have been pursuing them... right?!?) without it, is always a shame, imo.