I'd feel a lot safer.

Should there be separate roads for people who keep using their cell phones while driving? Who drunk when driving? Who ignore red lights? Speed limits? Etc.

Nope. People who do those things shouldn't be allowed to drive, and people who don't wear masks shouldn't be allowed to get food.

I like the way TwoWayMirror thinks

You are correct.

i want to help you but i just don't have the time these days.

say Doc, how much carbon dioxide do we reinhale by wearing a mask?

Too much! It’s affecting liberals’ reasoning.

wrong on both counts, my dear Watson

It's shown to lower your oxygen levels, so just because I want to breathe I shouldn't eat? Some checkout lady accosted me at the store for being a horrible and negligent mother because I dared to bring my children to the store with me. Meanwhile she was wearing the mask on her chin not even covering her nose and mouth, I was wearing mine correctly. Should single mothers or those who can't find childcare not eat because they shouldn't bring their children to the store?

"I was wearing mine correctly."

Good.

"she was wearing the mask on her chin not even covering her nose and mouth"

Then she should've been thrown out of the store.

Agreed. And she is the manager. smh. And that store lost another constumer, stores shouldn't be paying their employees to give their opinions.

No, but they should be paying employees to escort people without masks out of the stores.

What security guards usually do about shoplifters and other petty criminals.

They're able to kick people out of stores, aren't they? That much force.

Yeah, no, that is a really bad idea. Store employees should not be approaching people who are by law legally not wearing a mask. It is asking for a dangerous confrontation, which cna, and already has, become deadly. If a store hires a security company or police officers, those people could reasonably enforce a mask requirement, but that's the key..."requirement". Until it is law that you wear a mask somewhere, you should understand that your beliefs are nothing but an opinion formed on sketchy-at-best information/data.

The idea of having store employees escorting customers out of a store for not wearing a mask is incredibly dumb.

Security guards are exactly what I was thinking.

Wearing a mask should absolutely be optional, and people who accost those who choose not to wear them should be prosecuted for harassment, if not assault. The numbers on how effective masks are change on a daily f**king basis! Yet all these people fall in line and believe that wearing these masks is going to "flatten the curve"...again. It was flattened once, with barely any mask wearing, and it can be flattened again simply by people going out less and practicing some form of social distancing. I think you should continue going wherever you want without wearing a mask. Good personal hygiene and social distancing should be more than sufficient to protect you and to protect others from you.

This is a very interesting point.

I guess mouth and nose are the most important because the lung surface area is huge and we actively suck in the volume

I guess if people were really concerned they would wear eyewear, masks and gloves. Not just wear a flimsy paper or cloth mask that may or may not help because someone told you to...

Stores wipe down the checkout touchpad and people who wear the masks think they do help. Imagine if they helped but people who didnt wear them were essentially killing other people needlessly...

True. We do what we can with what we know. And if it makes our elderly feel safer, ill wear it. But banning doctors from social media who speak the truth about it isn't helping. Only just imagine if certain people would be held accountable for tweaking out a virus in a lab to make it stronger, and then purposely releasing it into the world for a hidden agenda. These people must be stopped, or the next round will be a lot worse. This was just a test run. This is what makes me and another of other Americans angry. They are using this to establish control, at the cost of people's lives.

you're right to be extremely skeptical. why should you trust youtube or china? i don't automatically trust anybody (including those banned doctors).

i distrust fauci the least. he seems a smart and good guy. i don't know about the cdc overall. there are other smart people there and anyway that's what we have.

do what we can is the way to look at it.

The CDC admitted to double counting positive test results, and counting positive antibody test results as new infections (effectively counting the immune with the infected).

It's ridiculous to anyone looking closely enough at it.

The feds are paying money for each Covid reported. So deaths where there is no testing - Covid death. Car wreck but your blood had co I’d - Covid death. Stage 4 cancer - Covid death. No one knows the true death count. We have no science on this, just politics.

"Admitted" or "realized"? You haz joined the deep levels of foolery.

At least I'm not so thoroughly brainwashed that I obey every order. Read up chump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/coronavirus-tests-cdc.html

it's concerning that you need to congratulate yourself for not being 100% brainwashed, but ok. it's progress.

your article indicates that i was right, so 'chump' seems out of line even for you, my young turkey. i'm chalking it up to your usual frustration plus some wishful interpretation (on your part) plus maybe a bad day?

if you're interested in news on a cure for that brainwashing epidemic, right now i'm sorry to say it looks bleak. let's hope for a miracle.

EXACTLY - she/he is heavily indoctrinated. And very sarcastically mean and snarky, I guess. Didn't really think they were that way, but their responses here are nothing short of condescending and sanctimonious.

You smell.

Ummm, what does it matter!!!??? The point is that the death count is exaggerated. Colorado has ADMITTED that their counting method was exaggerating the death count for COVID-19. First, they realized their error, then they admitted it publicly. Your argument to DrSarcasm is moot.

And State of Colorado revised their freaking death count! They were counting people who died of car accidents (blunt trauma), but tested positive for COVID-19 after they were on death's doorstep, or even already dead!!!! They also admitted to counting the anti-body tests as positives even though there is a very high false positive for them. Florida is the next state to do this and their revision is going to be huge!

Fauci has an agenda that does not follow science. I do not know what it is. He said wear masks, then you don’t need masks, now wear masks. He admitted he lied to us the second time because he did not want a run on masks. WTF?! So I do not know when he’s lying anymore.

what makes you so paranoid, Doc? he admitted he lied to us? i know it's not just you. you all seem to need to ascribe this evil character to people who don't agree with you. he said wear masks because that's what people should do. he changed his advice when the crisis started to change the supply situation. when supply caught up with need, he shifted back to "wear masks".

Truth is not like emotions, subject to change. He knew masks were important and intentionally lied to us. So what’s the agenda for him now? When is he telling the truth? Why should I believe anything that boomer says? His opinion did not evolve either science. “science” is being hi jacked by politics.

yes, that part is truth.

We have enough uncertainty when we are informed. And I fear the issue has infected both political parties.

I believe what you said is possible, but I cannot say I believe it with all my heart/mind. Unfortunately, war with China is inevitable in the next 50 years. I just hope I'm dead before it happens because it will destroy the world.

Its not hard to find the truth with a little digging these days. Unfortunately, it might not just be with China, but Russia too. Idk. Unless the UN and the NWO take over first. I believe Trump is keeping that from happening, and is buying us more time. Though I could be wrong, and He's actually part of it. Only time will tell. But I also believe we are in the end days, and things will get worse.

I don't think we're in the end days simply because I don't think that is a thing. I'm spiritual, so I do not subscribe to any particular religion. All I believe is that there is some higher power out there. And, that what you do now might affect what happens to you after you die. I'm hedging my bets by being a productive, law-abiding citizen. And, by worshiping the idea of a higher power, I'm covering all bases with regard to religion. I have no problem with peoples' beliefs, so feel free to believe whatever you want. I don't judge for religious/spiritual beliefs. No one truly knows what is up with that kind of subject matter.

Like I said, I do believe what you said is possible. I hope it isn't.

People who don't wear masks are killing everyone?

They are putting others at greater risks

For crying out loud, he didn't say everyone. Stop exaggerating the risks of masks and minimizing the risks of the diseases.

The risk of the disease killing is between 0.05% with inflated death tolls, to 0.003% with antibody positive testing included. If I minimized it more it would be the common cold.

I don't see anyone pointing out that there are serious mental health issues with all of these safety precautions. Anxiety and depression are on the rise. So are drug overdoses. For a disease with a relatively low mortality rate, we should not be damaging the economy and our fellow human beings to the extent we are.

We must next shut down the world for Leishmaniasis! It's killing just one fewer person per day than COVID-19!!!!

thats true, but, we dont have a cure for it, imagine if there was a gun, that when it shot you, there was almost no way to certainly heal your wound, thats basically covid

True for the worst health patients only. And there will never be a cure because we can not cure any virus. The only solution - end game here - is to get it and recover. Then your body has the antibodies to fight it again. On the other hand, if you cannot fight it off the first time, it’s your last. This scenario will be each person’s fate eventually. The vax is only required to make 50% be immune, so that standard is no answer either. We are on a foolish quest to avoid getting it when we should be exposing people in a controlled and limited system that will not overwhelm the hospital for those few who need a ventilator for the body to beat it. Never gonna happen. So nature will expose and eliminate, slow or fast.

"The vax is only required to make 50% be immune, so that standard is no answer either."

It is an answer for those 50%.

But how do know who is in which category? To be “safe” nothing can change even after you are vaccinated, because you may have no protection. Do vaccinations are not the end all salvation. Bottom line: deal with it.

"Imagine if they helped but people who didnt wear them were essentially killing other people needlessly" Can you tell me what purpose masks serve? We have violence in stores people going to the hospital over face coverings. Is it really worth it?

Your quote doesn't say or imply everyone. That's an exaggeration. Masks impede and thus prevent some os the spread. There's a lot of numbers between 0% and 100% in both cases.

And no, the violence of trumpist maniacs who refuse to wear masks and start fights isn't worth it.

well not everyone, but masks reduce the dispersal of the viral particles. it follows that if a substantial portion of the population don't wear masks, as we see in Georgia, the spread of the virus is farther and faster within the population. so like it or not, yes, the people who are not wearing masks are, as a group, killing people.

Assumes all who contract it die. 99% plus recover nicely. And, it assumes that you can stop the spread. That is scientifically impossible to achieve. What happened to “flatten the curve”? Now we want no transmission? A fairy tale goal. It’s going to spread until our collective immune systems beat it.

99% recover nicely, thats not true, 99% Recover, not nicely, they recover

Most do not even know they have it until they had a test come back as a routine matter for an unrelated issue!

Thats why most people are dying because of *lung complications* when they had the coronavirus

Not after they get well. That happens during the infection to the fraction of 1% who have medical complications that make it impossible for them to fight the virus.

you used to be so careful and logical. what happen?

Trump Derangement Syndrome

with Trump as Patient Zero ( :

What part of “we will all get the disease” do you not believe, and why?

"Assumes all who contract it die." Maury: uh, nope.
"And it assumes you can stop the spread." Also nope.
We don't all need to get the virus. Claiming that we do is unhelpfully feeding the misbehavior of the non-distancing, non-mask-wearing folk. It's reasonable to expect that the virus can be extinguished, at least in the usa, by a combination of intelligent resistance, as some states are managing, and drug and vaccine development. So sure, a lot of people are going to get infected because of the shenanigans to date, but not everyone has to suffer for that.

Your world view is small. We are not an island with secure borders. This is a world problem. We can’t end the flu or common cold. But you think this disease, which scientists claim is highly contagious, can be vanquished? Treatment only aides your body in developing antibodies. Nothing more. Unless everyone hides in their house and stays there, with no human contact, and I mean everyone worldwide, this virus will remain. Vaccinations will be as effective as flu viruses - giving you 4 strains out of many based on the the best guess of which strains will be most active. And that assumes the vax is 100% effective which is not likely. Your optimism is commendable, but goes against science.

I see numerous people use the same touchscreen before it is cleaned...the stores are doing a horrible job at keeping these common areas clean. Anyway, contracting the virus from contact has a very low likelihood, per CDC and WHO. It's an aerosol spread, hence the masks. Infection through the eye is possible, but not as likely as via nose or mouth. Still, these masks are far less effective than these speculative organizations (CDC, WHO, et al.) say they are. This will all come to light after COVID-19 is essentially gone.

YES!!!!!!

or ears