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Well, who wields the greater power? Who is ultimately good? There's your answer | THE ALL-POWERFUL GOD OF THE UNIVERSE, AND SEVERAL OF HIS ARCHANGELS; SOME SNOTTY, BRATTY KIDS WHO SNEAK AROUND THEIR SUPERIORS' BACKS | image tagged in who would win,lord of the rings | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
636 views 12 upvotes Made by Aelfwine_the_Mariner 4 years ago in Lotr-TheHobbit-Fans
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2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Why can’t we get along? We both like fantasy? I’m seriously confused I love both
2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Oh boi... This'll take a while.

1: Rowling ripped off Tolkien.
2: Hairy Potter's magic system is crap
3: Hairy Potter's overall plot is crap
4: Tolkien was inspired by God; Rowling wasn't
5: Tolkien is much more realistic and believable, despite that LOTR is set in a fantasy world and H. P. Is set in the 90's
6: There are a ton of moral and theological issues in H. P.; LOTR is a thoroughly Christian work
7: Tolkien had a much better, more poetic writing style than Rowling
8: LOTR has much better "historical" context, and the way it's written makes you believe that there is so much more to Middle Earth than is related in the Legendarium

And there are plenty other reasons why we love LOTR and bash Hairy Potter. But I think I hit the highlights.
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
That doesn’t answer why we are hateful to HP fans. I know LOTR’s better, but that doesn’t mean the fans are
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
We're hateful to H.P. fans? No, we just bash the franchise.
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1 up, 4y,
2 replies
Not what I’ve seen
1 up, 4y
Well, I'm speaking for myself. And Pirate melon. And Cesesil. And most of the other members on this stream.
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1 up, 4y
I don't bash the fans, I'm friends with a fan. But when one does not admit that LotR IS the better franchise and more believable, we can and will get up in arms to defend it
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
My response to each one:
1. Ehh. It has some elements tolkien didn't have and isn't an absolute ripoff, but i do agree that some characters and stuff like that based off characters from tolkien. But why are you worrying about what she stole from tolkien when she practically stole the entire plot from the earthsea series? i love the series, but in my opinion the main problem is how it rips off the earthsea series.
2. I honestly don't know how to respond to this. How am i supposed to rate a magic system?
3. in my experience hp has a pretty addictive and good plot, but you can have your opinions. also, the plot twists are amazing and unexpected.
4. I do have to agree with you on this one, it has more christian elements than harry potter.
5. well, Tolkien created a large history of middle-earth, along with middle earth maps and fictional languages.
6. Harry potter has pretty good messages. I really don't remember any theological problems
7. True, Tolkien does write more poetically. I think Rowling is still a good writer, though.
8. some harry potter stuff is based off actually real history, but i agree that Tolkien was much better at worldbuilding than Rowling.
So, yeah.
1 up, 4y
I'm really surprised you didn't pick up on the whole sorcery thing. It's pretty much what the series is about. It's also pretty clearly stated in the Bible that sorcerers and diviners have no share in the Kingdom of Heaven. So why should I approve of a book series that encourages it?

Now, you could argue that there's magic in LOTR too. And you'd be correct, though not for the reasons you might be thinking of. Let me explain: Gandalf, the elves, Aragorn, and any other protagonistic characters that use supernatural power are drawing their power from God, or, rather, the God-figure, namely, Ilúvatar. Saruman, the Nazgul, Sauron, and any other antagonistic characters that use supernatural power draw their power from the satan-figure, namely, Morgoth. In HP, however, both sides draw their power from the same source. That sounds to me a lot like a white/black magic (that is, the source of supernatural power is ultimately evil, but it sometimes disguises itself as good) thing.

I believe that I addressed both objections 2 and 6.
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1 up, 4y
Yes
1 up, 4y
The Lord God Almighty.
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
you use "superiors" as a word for adults? wow, you are really old fashioned.
0 ups, 4y
Is that a bad thing?
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