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George Floyd died of a Heart Attack

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And matter of fact, the independent autopsy did find he died of asphyxiation:

"An independent autopsy ordered by George Floyd's family found his death was a 'homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain,' according to early findings from the examination released Monday."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/independent-autopsy-george-floyd-findings-announced/story?id=70994827

Nice try tho
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So, what you're saying is you didn't read the article that YOU LINKED!

Hennepin coroner said "a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officer(s)." Not "caused by" being restrained - "while" being restrained.

The "independent examiners" were Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Allecia Wilson of University of Michigan - and they were definitely paid, because they conveniently neglected to mention the illegal drugs found in his system.
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You’re making a mountain out of a molehill. These ideas are not mutually exclusive in the slightest. At most, you have only shown an example of how bias infects writing.

In reality it doesn’t even matter that much.

The restraint was clearly wildly improper, as basic decency and several other PDs including the Minneapolis PD itself have confirmed.

And it defies common sense that the sustained pressure applied to Floyd’s neck didn’t contribute in some way to his death, whatever his other underlying conditions.

Officers are trained, or should be, to make arrests mindful that suspects could have underlying medical conditions. Or, indeed, be intoxicated.
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Words matter, and now you're dodging your failure to read your own citation.

I'm sure that his meth and fentanyl made it hard to breath too....."Excuse me sir, are you on any illegal drugs?" - what drug addict tells the truth to that question - and if they knew it would benefit them, why wouldn't they lie?
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Irrelevant.

Proper arrest protocol doesn’t change whether a person is high or has heart disease or not.

Officers ought to treat every suspect as if they might, because no comprehensive medical history is taken prior to making an arrest.
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By that logic, nobody would ever be taken into custody. Anyone with hypertension is at elevated risk for heart attack - merely interacting with police could kill them.

How about we treat criminals like criminals and they get to suffer the consequences of their actions? There are no consequences, which is why so many cities are on fire and so many businesses looted....because they know the liberals will demand they get away with it.
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By this logic, suspects *can* and *are* taken into custody every single day in this country. Because the 8th Amendment requires it. And use of excessive force could subject the officer and the police department to a legal challenge later. Or: widespread protests like we're seeing now.

But don't take my word for it:

"Police aren't allowed to use excessive force or treat the arrestee cruelly; this is universal and protected by the U.S. Constitution. Generally, police officers are only allowed to use the minimum amount of force necessary to protect themselves and bring the suspect into police custody. This is why people are advised to never resist an arrest or argue with police, even if they believe the arrest is inappropriate, since resistance could lead to the use of more force. If the arrestee thinks the arrest is unjustified or incorrect, they can always challenge it later with the help of an attorney and, if warranted, bring a civil rights case."

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/what-procedures-must-the-police-follow-while-making-an-arrest.html

So, officers should either comply with the arrest procedures we're familiar with and that they are already trained on, or:

Roll with what Donald Trump said about "looting and shooting," etc. But he's wrong and indeed no police departments have actually followed his suggestion. Because otherwise we'd be seeing Tiananmen Square-style bloodbaths all across America.
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He wasn't talking about police shooting looters - he was talking about citizens doing it, like the Koreans during the Rodney King riots.
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Lol! More supposedly exonerating explanations of Trump’s latest garbage fire quote.

That is still encouraging lethal and unlawful criminal action.
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Castle doctrine and stand your ground laws disagree with your assessment that shooting looters is illegal.
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One group failed to mention illicit drugs, so I'd say credibility goes to the coroner who provided the most complete autopsy.

Hide shit, and your credibility goes out the window.
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The independent autopsy didn't include a drug panel, which the county coroner did.

Have you STILL not read the article YOU posted?
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Yup, kyliefan posted it. Sorry.
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Lets try not to get sidetracked with that. George Floyd still died before Fentanyl killed him.
Even if Fentanyl would have killed him 5 minutes later, the cop still hastened his death.
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