Take a hint!

maybe that's why he keeps posting them ( :

Lol!😆

Wow, that other meme got out of control, time to bail on that one. Quite successful I might add. Every one of the attackers had to confront their views, they had to articulate their case against Christ and their support for what is pure evil. Kind of a dress rehearsal for the judgement seat. My grandpa called it planting seeds. You planted, someone will water and we pray for a bountiful harvest, neither one of us want to see anyone condemn themselves to eternity separate from God. Nice little hornets nest you stirred up there.

Thank you. Several times, I was worried I may have gotten confusing, but I tried to keep my head on as I revealed things to them. Was I ok?

Yes you stayed pretty collected. They pulled out every socialist attack on you and you were pretty unphased (yes I know there were a couple that left a dent, but dents add character and you don't mind it when you get another one in the parking lot). It really turned into a free for all, you could see a lot of the tactics they use and you could see they recognized they weren't working by how shrill they started getting. Most conservatives are too polite for stuff like this, and for years they feel like they've won, "God is dead" "Jesus is Dead" "Maybe the 3000 prophesies in the Bible are just a lucky guess"
They had to dig deep in the arsenal to try to hurt you. That means they had to think about what they believe and they had to listen somewhat to what you said so they could try to counter it. Anyone who is honestly asking, deeply hurting and trying to find the answers saw something there that will move them to change. Then you ask yourself, why did they think they had to hurt you? They see themselves as easy going, just minding their own business, live and let live and all of the sudden some Christian jumps in their face and tries to act holier than thou. We never once did that, shared with each other, enjoyed some excellent long distance fellowship during a time socialists think they have a way to crush the church. We had to forget Easter, that ought to teach us about quaint little fables and myths so we come around to their way of thinking. Not if you have a genuine relationship with Jesus Christ. When you know what He did on the cross, the humiliation He suffered, the beatings, the scourging, three illegal trials and you have read about it "beforehand" in Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22, they did not take Easter away from us. I cringe to think I added my share to the price he paid, and I mess up and add a little more each day. And I'm ashamed. Then I hear a voice, "I know, you messed up. Again. But I love you, like a parent loves their child, like a husband lives his bride. If I had to I would do it again, but I don't have to, it is finished and your sin is covered for eternity."
When I think about eternal and infinite love. It shakes me. When I think about eternal and infinite mercy, He will never say, you know I was just thinking and I don't forgive you for (fill in the blank) now. No, it is eternal. It is infinite. Every promise of God is. We have it, we want to share it and they are terrified of having to admit their sin. Jesus died for every sin, not just

I agree with all the above. I've learned "you can't fight stupid with stupid". If i were to get very emotionally engaged and start trying to "play by their terms", it wouldn't turn out so well for the argument, or my reputation; I just stay calm and present my thoughts as clear as possible, remembering to stick to the word(....sharper than any two-edged sword).....
With Octavia, I was trying to get him/her to understand that the Bible is something that one must believe. There is evidence, but any critic will instantly provide you with supposed disproofs; it simply doesn't change a skeptical mind. That's why I gave him/her the finale option to come to me if they were serious, but I wasn't gonna play monkey in the middle with an atheist.
With all the confusion, you saw my testimony, right? I posted it yesterday.

Yes I did see your testimony. I love it. I left a comment that it's as simple as that, but it's not so easy, and it got totally buried in the pandemonium of comments that ensued (it's up to 126 comments last time I looked) and they are starting to eat each other. Jesus Christ the first to trigger everyone. And the funny thing is your meme wasn't directly about Christianity except for the implied Christian values of the founding. They aren't offended by abortion, they aren't offended by letting anyone who identifies as a woman compete in women's sports, use women's locker rooms, they aren't offended at Islamists who saw people's heads off, but man! Are they ever offended by the Cross. Paul called that a couple thousand years ago.

I know! It's funny how atheists are quick to get aggressive about something they "don't believe". It's that conviction, tgat still small voice. And also, the word of God "pierces and devides assunder", they were both experiencing that, I believe .
They are indeed still active in that abyss of comments. There still asking questions, but I stated one last thing, then said my time was well expired. Yet, Octavia is still talking. I'm done answering fools according to their folly with that meme I think.
And what you said about cleaning up your language was very encouraging. Would you be suprised if i told you I've never said a word of profanity? Not to sound holier-than-thou, but it's my conviction. My mom and dad have the greatest values and I'm forever in debt to their Godliness they've practiced. They taught, and am still teaching me wonderful things.

I absolutely believe you, I never did until I got to college, and I wish I never did utter the things that have come out of my mouth. Shakespeare said you can't take back what passes the barrier of your teeth, and Lord knows I have too much I wish I could take back. You're at an age where the world is going to dangle a lot of wonderful thing in front of you. Easy for me to say, stay strong, stay true- no regrets- you aren't missing out on anything if it is outside of God's design for us. If you don't know God's design you will stumble and the price you pay can be brutal, Satan is nobody's friend. I don't say this because I don't think you know it, but as means of encouragement. Pray without ceasing, you can't be close to anyone if you don't communicate. That little voice in your head? Listen to it. I had to deal with things in the oilfield that I had no clue and I heard a voice that walked me through incredibly technical problems. Another time I was working in construction at a ski area called Telluride. I was doing a punch list in a house all by myself, no one else there. It was one of my strongest spiritual times, prayed constantly sang hymns, no evil to throw me off. I used all the screws and nails in my tool bags (you don't wear them during a punch list in a furnished house, knock a $15,000 lamp off a table and you don't work anymore). So I would need 13- 1 1/2" screws to put up a piece of found art. I walked down to the basement, looked in my bags and there was exactly what I needed, no more no less. I'd need 6-1/2 inch screws, go to my bags, 6- 1/2 inch screws, no more, no less. I did that 10 hours a day for 2 weeks until I finished the house. Can you imagine the joy of something so simple as going to tool bags and watching God provide exactly what I needed, exactly when I needed it. Most importantly, I needed that spiritual lesson. Not one sparrow falls that He does not know, how much more does He care for us. I entered a time when God's provision was far more than screws and nails, and had I not had that experience and that assurance, I would not have had faith that He would provide when it was impossible. TO the world it was impossible that I would find anything in an empty tool belt. We know what the empty tomb means, they see nothing and don't get it. Don't utter profanity, don't go along to get along (I was too pliable in my youth and it cost me) you don't have to go there, you'll make plenty of mistakes without trying.

Wow.....so every time you needed something, you went to an empty tool box and it was there? I've heard of stories missionaries tell just like that.....amazing...

It was jaw dropping. I went through a divorce, my first wife who grew up Christian, took out kids to church with me, put up the front had an affair and destroyed our marriage. I didn't know about the affair and prayed for God to restore things, but her heart was too hard. I take the part about not thinking more highly of yourself than you ought, and thinking more highly of others than yourself pretty seriously, her, not so much. All during the first month I had a pain in my chest that kept getting worse, I prayed more for restoration, it was torture not being around my kids. There was an old expression that someone pined away and died of a broken heart, at the end of that first month I found out about the affair and I was dying of a broken heart. I finally reached all I could stand, the pain was unbearable and I cried out, LORD! I can't take any more, I'm going to die!" In that instant I felt something reach into me between my collar bone and my shoulder on my left side, straight to my heart, straight down through me and touched my heart and the pain instantly went away. Now I don't imagine things, I am totally a reality based guy and I was stunned. There was no question that something very, very significant had just happened and I sat there dazed, I couldn't believe it, but it was very real God had touched my heart with His finger and healed it. The pain never came back like it was. My ex would do some very hurtful things and I would get a low ache, always manageable, never to that sharp intensity I had been experiencing. And when it hurt all I had to do was say, "Lord." and the pain would soften. With my first wife it was one of those "love at first sight" things. We were both long distance runners in college, both went to church, both wanted a family, both worked hard, real compatible and we married about 18 months later. Anyone can be on their best behavior for a year, some people can mask the "real you" for a couple years. But you really need time to see how a person treats others, no one should be afraid to take their time. I looked at it as a lifetime commitment, she saw it as a disposable convenience. She's on her 4th marriage now, I dated my second wife for 5 years before we married, she's a solid believer and the most incredible lady on earth. I knew she was a gift from God when I met, but we took our time and we never neglected worship, allowing a solid foundation to be established before we married. This year is 23 years. Stay on the path you

Wow,.I know. I always hear about relationships not working out and people act as if it inevitable. I don't think that has to be the case. If you truly take time to study, pray, seek God's will etc...God will help you find that one and he'll also help you keep a marriage(Even if you must wait for relations, it's worth it. I'm glad my body is still pure) I'm obviously not married, but I've learned things and seen experiences. ALL these things have shaped my beliefs. I'm sorry for what happened to your marriage and I'm sure you wanted it to work out. But we all can learn from situations, even ones that people would dub "a failure". I've got some personal issues I'm still trying to get a grip on, but with God's help, I'm succeeding. And you wanna know something? I don't think it's any coincidence our paths crossed. We can help each other with advice and prayer.
I wrapped up the conversation with Octavia. You probably saw.

Yes I saw that, you are an impressive man Luke. Regarding the other stuff, I seem to go back to Joseph often at the end of Genesis "What you intended for evil, God intended for good." God made everything, it is nothing for Him to turn everything to good to suit His good purposes. I have an incredible wife now and 10 1/2 grandkids (a grand daughter coming in July). I couldn't be happier. My daughter is a single mom with three kids,a solid believer as are the kids. It has been fascinating how God has provided for them since she got laid off with the coronavirus hoax. Another long story for another time, but nothing short of blessed miracle after blessed miracle.
You've got great parents, never be afraid to turn to them. Now if you want a grandpa style perspective......LOL. No seriously, I'm actually immature for my age. I'll pray for you without asking (I pray for a lot of people and I don't even know their names). I'm sure you have a good pastor that you can turn to as well, but I understand that sometimes issues are too close and more personal than you want to talk to someone real close about, definitely been down that road myself. I will always try to guide you to scripture if you ask so that you can turn to that and some of what I have is wisdom learned from hitting my thumb with a hammer too many times. If need be, we can figure out a way to exchange email addresses without exposing it here, you've met some of the wolves. LOL In the mean time God bless you until we "talk" again.

are on, you will not regret it. That's not saying you won't have difficulties, pain or trials, but each one is for a purpose. I can honestly say that every time I look back at thing where I wondered, "Now why did God put me through that?" In the proper time it is revealed and it is an incredible journey, with precise purpose and meaning for everything I've endured. Because I have hurt, I can comfort the broken hearted. Because I have struggled I can encourage the struggling, because I've known poverty, I can give, because I have made incredible wealth I can give generously. Everything in my life has had a purpose, and God has even used my poor designs to His glory, when I thought I knew the way best. There is no bondage in Christ. Our founders understood perfect liberty in Christ better than any other gathering of men in history, and because of that we have a nation that covetous men and women believe needs to be destroyed. Your first meme was absolutely right, why destroy this for others when you have the freedom to go anywhere your perfect system already exists? Satan is evil, he is hate filled and the embodiment of destructive rage. Knowing the Bible is the only defense we have. Through that knowledge we know and are known by the Creator. In that Creator we have sure and eternal hope and life is truly good with an eternal future we beyond everything we can imagine.
My wife now is an oncology nurse, before that she worked hospice as well as other jobs, but often in hospice she would be with a person when they passed. Almost without fail, not always, non- believers would go into a panic and complete terror as they passed. Believers sometimes would have conversations with someone and an unbelievable calm was the common trait. The conversations were joyful and they passed peacefully, completely at ease. She saw it so many times, and we talked about it a lot, enough to recognize it wasn't just a random thing, but was very consistent. So the naysayers can be very proud of their no God conclusions and rationalizations, but that doesn't negate God. Convincing them that It is God's desire that none should perish, but he loves us enough to let us go if that's what we want. You have chosen well, keep doing what you are doing, it gets richer and deeper with each passing breath. More than anything I say, you know God promises it,through the Bible He proves He is the God of kept promises and there is much more ahead for those who humble themselves enough to believe.

Yes, God bless you too. And good luck and stay safe with your job.

I'm a born-again believer. Listen, if you're gonna start another barrage of pointless claims, you can forget it. I've had enough of this two days of your constant babbling. If you don't believe the bible, ok. You've been told, and you've made your decision...."choose ye this day whom ye will serve" Joshua 24:15. So just enough for now. We certainly have different views, but let's not take this too far, ok.

I'm not going to pretend I won because there's really no winning here. The constitution says freedom of religion, so nobody is forced to accept our teachings. We present them, and people can accept or reject and even though I disagree with rejecting it, I still accept people have their own opinion and i won't ridicule you for it.

Like you told sevenheart, "you don't agree at all on the Christian thing"....listen,even though we dont, lets not be enemies, alright?

Thanks. 👍

That's good. Would you mind if I prayed for you though?

I understand. And i wasn't either. Things got rough, no doubt, but it was an exchange; Give and take. We'll see each other again, no doubt on another debate soon.

for believers, but every sin. Otherwise He couldn't say "That whosoever believes in Him shall not perish...." Hitler could have been saved, Judas could have been saved, thank God we had persistent parents and grandparents that patiently guarded us and prayed for us until we realized what an incredible gift God has offered. There were very hurtful things said there, but not as hurtful as a scourge, or getting hit with a reed, or having a crown of thorns pounded down into your skull. They dismiss it because they don't know, we told them, they deny it because they refuse to believe. God will do the saving, we just have to tell about Christ. I should have gone to sleep hours ago, but I couldn't abandon you to the wolves. I drive truck primarily on the East Coast. They are so desperate for drivers they fly me from Western Colorado where I live to my truck. I drive 30 days then have 15 days off when they fly me home. I wouldn't recommend it. I'm following you so I don't lose you, then realized how many of your memes I've upvoted. You have a real talent. Probably don't want to look at mine, writing an app to turn other people's cell phones into a bug zapper if they get closer than 6 feet didn't really go over that well compared to yours. Name is Brian btw.

Very nice to meet you. I'm Luke. I love being a gospel of the Bible! LOL. Thanks for the compliment, I love making memes so much. I followed you too, so we'll never lose contact. Oh, and being a busy teen, I try to be on here to return comments as much as possible, but forgive me if they're ever delayed.
And thanks for helping me out with those to libs.....that means a lot to me.

Live near Montrose, north of Telluride, south of Grand Junction. I've forgotten where you said you live.

I was thinking it was SOCAL. Yeah, Monarch Pass is a shocker for most people, especially up in a truck where you can see all the way down. There's one called Red Mountain Pass south of Montrose to Durango. I'd be nervous on that one even though I've driven it a thousand times in a 4 wheeler, pulling trailers. Matter of fact that's probably the only place I'd refuse a load. Western Colorado is still a kind of well kept secret, mainly because there aren't a lot of jobs, that's why I have to fly to work, not much freight going out of there. Company I drive for now doesn't do much west of the Mississippi, more around NYC than I care for. Miss the long runs in Texas. Kind of spoiled now with the light traffic, but can see it starting to pick up again. Be safe, and I promise, I will put extra effort into being civil at our next debate, maybe actually say something funny (I hope).

You stay safe too, I'm going to be running loads into NYC again for the next week. Not worried, after they publicized all the symptoms I know I had it already, shakes fever chills headache, cough for three months. Probably spread it for 3 months before they called it a health emergency. A lot of us did, I've compared notes with about 50 truckers who say the same thing, had it in November or December. Don't hear anyone coughing now.
And you weren't supposed to track us down here. We were the first 14 comments on that meme and just sharing stuff we both enjoy a lot when everyone decided it was time to snuff us out. It's got like 160+ comments. and two of them pertain to the meme.
We had a respectful truce before I went and got hurt and dropped out for a while. Had to fall off a ladder break a hip, collar bone, shoulder and some ribs to get me off imgflip. It was the ribs that held me back. And last thing on Christianity, I haven't accepted it blindly, I dug deep, studied it intently from every angle and had a few things that can only be explained as the hand of God touching me. I am convinced and have all the proof I need. Now we can live and let live again. I miss the reasoned debates with you, I had to think and articulate to stay in the ring with you.