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When the U.S does it's "bad", but when a certain Asian country does it... | GUESS WHICH COUNTRY IS FULL OF RACISM AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE, SEXISM, HOMOPHOBIA, ANTI-PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVES AND IS FAMOUS FOR ONE OF ITS LEADERS WANTING TO BUILD A WALL? CHINA! | image tagged in china great wall,hey guys guess what,memes,liberal hypocrisy,left wing | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,262 views 22 upvotes Made by SnappyCenter7 5 years ago in politics
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5 ups, 5y,
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China's wall didn't work - they were ruled by the Mongolian empire for about two hundred years.
1 up, 5y,
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Thank you for sharing that. The point of the joke is the double standard where the U.S does something, the left wing condemns it, but when China does it they get a pass.
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3 ups, 5y,
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How the f**k does China get a pass?, their wall was built 600 years ago, not much republican/democrat debate going on back then. You're just fishing
1 up, 5y,
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The wall part was a joke, what about the other points I mentioned? For example; the United States has legalized gay marriage in most states; China has not.
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3 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y
Thank you Octavia_Melody :), you've proven my point here is even more accurate
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2 ups, 5y,
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That's China's problem
2 ups, 5y
And helps proves the accuracy of this meme, and how you missed the point.
2 ups, 5y
Leftists reee about unfair treatment in the United States for certain groups. They are some of the most fortunate people in the world, and a lot of these grievances are historical.
1 up, 5y,
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1 up, 5y
Yes. That, or try to make a point.
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1 up, 5y,
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Almost every "double standard" joke we see on imgflip is, like yours, rooted in an intentional misinterpetation of how the "left wing" behaves. Not an accidental one! An intentional one. You have several people here challenging your assumption that China gets a pass from "the left" and you're straight up ignoring them.
0 ups, 5y,
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I wouldn't call responding to their comments, making comparisons and explaining said comparisons straight up ignoring those people you mentioned.
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1 up, 5y,
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You don't do any of that - you just repeat the exact premise that we're contesting.
0 ups, 5y,
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I didn't do that in the meme, I have done it in the comments section. I agree that China's wall vs President Trump's proposed wall have differences, that part was added as a joke. The main parts where the racism, sexism, homophobia and anti-progressive conservatives - criticisms the left often hurls at the United States - are worse in China.

To copy-paste part of a comment I made on this thread to someone else;

Homophobia; Attitudes to homosexuality vary from state to state, but there are states that repealed their sodomy laws in the 1970’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States#State_and_territorial_laws_prior_to_Lawrence_v._Texas while China ruled homosexuality a mental illness until 2001. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_China#Modern_China Plus gay people can get married in some states of the U.S. but they can’t get married in China.

Racism; While the U.S (and Canada for that matter) have got some nasty history there, China's no innocent in this department either; Western movies from the U.S. often downplay, or have downplayed, black people in their movies for the China release (such as the character Finn from Disney's Star Wars movies). Also check out this https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/04/13/china-racism-against-africans-isolated-incidents-misunderstandings/ and certain film critics in China reviewing the film "Black Panther" https://qz.com/1226449/a-torture-for-the-eyes-chinese-moviegoers-think-black-panther-is-too-black/ https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2386111/black-panther-isnt-going-over-quite-as-well-with-viewers-in-china Imagine the reaction if anyone form the U.S or Canada said this. Also check this out https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/04/13/china-racism-against-africans-isolated-incidents-misunderstandings/ Because China's media is so "free", we can trust they're being completely "honest", right? Ever heard of the time when China had a dark-skinned non-Chinese head of state? Where's China's Barack Obama? (Addendum: ever wonder WHY there are so few non-Chinese people in China?)
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1 up, 5y,
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See, you're doing it again! Your premise that people have some sort of blind spot for China is wrong so what do you do? You copy and paste that exact assertion again!
0 ups, 5y,
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What evidence do you have for your claim that my premise is wrong? I said that point to sewmyeyesshut, not you, so I am sharing some of the evidence of my assertion for people's blind spot towards China (such as the lack of response to racist criticism of the Black Panther movie that would see someone driven from the industry if they did it in the United States).
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1 up, 5y,
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What evidence have you shared? "Nobody complains about racial erasure in Chinese film releases." "We do, actually." "I'm just saying that they don't!"
0 ups, 5y,
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The fact that people do racial erasure in Chinese film releases rather than refuse to do that for China proves the point. I even added an addendum to the information with a question; why do you think there's so few non-Chinese people in China? I googled "racial erasure in Chinese films", https://www.google.com.au/search?ei=Al6cXqagNsHZrQHu6qC4AQ&q=racial+erasure+in+chinese+films&oq=racial+erasure+in+chinese+films&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQA1D32AJYudoCYLTbAmgAcAB4AIABpAGIAaQBkgEDMC4xmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwimqf7L1_ToAhXBbCsKHW41CBcQ4dUDCAs&uact=5

In the first two columns I found only 1 link out of dozens talking about racism in China's film industry; far more where whining about Hollywood.

Now I have answered your question, will you answer mine; what evidence do you have that people on the left wing do point out this double standard?
1 up, 5y
Leftists. lol.
2 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y
Thank you; in addition to the accuracy I enjoyed Ed, Edd n' Eddy when I was a teenager.
1 up, 5y
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4 ups, 5y,
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Holy f**k, when did they build that wall?, the world has evolved some since, you should try it.
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3 ups, 5y
'Twas built in several small sections at a time over about 500 years before becoming one big giant construction - another fact that Trump fans don't seem to appreciate as being directly relevant to them; anyone with civil engineering experience will tell you that Trump's wall is going to take 20 years at least to finish IF things go well.
1 up, 5y,
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You missed the point of the meme; it was to call out double standards in how the U.S gets treated and how China gets treated in a humorous way. Hope this helps evolve your sense of humor.
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3 ups, 5y,
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Makes absolutely no sense, you're reaching.
1 up, 5y,
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What makes you think I'm grasping at straws?
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2 ups, 5y,
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False equivelant.
1 up, 5y,
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Explain how it's a false equivalent.
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2 ups, 5y,
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The difference being 6 centuries of civilization and evolution
1 up, 5y,
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You missed my other points about China's racism, sexism, homophobia and anti-progressive conservatives. What about them? Those aren't false equivalents or grasping at straws. Cherry-picking my point about the wall doesn't work when the other points are there for all to see.
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2 ups, 5y,
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Ok, so you don't like China, the US is nothing like China, bully for you, you figured it out, next why don't you compare Canada and the US, see where the dispairaties lie there.
1 up, 5y,
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Drop the red herring and the strawman. This about the U.S and China, not the U.S. and Canada. I don't like the way China's government since Mao does things; there are aspects of the culture I like and take the people like I take people from anywhere else - on a case-by-case basis. Plus while I think Trump has done some good for the U.S, I don't think he's perfect or the best President (but certainly far from the worst); does that make me a Trump fan?

You're avoiding my argument because you know I'm right about the double standards and how the U.S is fairer and freer than China. For example;

Homophobia; Attitudes to homosexuality vary from state to state, but there are states that repealed their sodomy laws in the 1970’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States#State_and_territorial_laws_prior_to_Lawrence_v._Texas while China ruled homosexuality a mental illness until 2001. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_China#Modern_China Plus gay people can get married in some states of the U.S. but they can’t get married in China.

Racism; While the U.S (and Canada for that matter) have got some nasty history there, China's no innocent in this department either; Western movies from the U.S. often downplay, or have downplayed, black people in their movies for the China release (such as the character Finn from Disney's Star Wars movies). Also check out this https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/04/13/china-racism-against-africans-isolated-incidents-misunderstandings/ and certain film critics in China reviewing the film "Black Panther" https://qz.com/1226449/a-torture-for-the-eyes-chinese-moviegoers-think-black-panther-is-too-black/ https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2386111/black-panther-isnt-going-over-quite-as-well-with-viewers-in-china Imagine the reaction if anyone form the U.S or Canada said this. Also check this out https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/04/13/china-racism-against-africans-isolated-incidents-misunderstandings/ Because China's media is so "free", we can trust they're being completely "honest", right? Ever heard of the time when China had a dark-skinned non-Chinese head of state? Where's China's Barack Obama?

I've got more but I'll leave this here for now.
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2 ups, 5y
cut china some slack my guy, china is like 100% Chinese (92% Han, 8% Chinese minorities), they have like a 0% chance of electing an official that's not asian lol

and as for racism, some Chinese people have not even seen black people in their lives, so... yeah

essentially, china is too Chinese, which causes a lot of these problems like racism since its not diverse enough
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2 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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Even if the United States has those problems too, it's lazy and/or cowardly to only call them out in the United States. If these groups really care, it's comparatively easy for an activist group to get enough money to travel to China and all these problems out (I'm taking under normal circumstances, as the Covid-19 pandemic, which ironically originated from China, has put a lockdown on travel).

Plus the United States has those problems in far lesser amounts than China; remember when the United States hasn't yet had a person of foreign ethnicity as head of state, when the United States had babies of one gender abandoned or killed due to a one child policy, or how the United States has yet to legalize gay marriage? Me neither.
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0 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y
You're right, I highly doubt China's government would listen or do anything about it, at least those activists are trying to fix actual problems rather than something like raging against people for merely disagreeing with their cause.

This analogy is not effective; I think a better one would be the first man hits and verbally abuses his wife while the second just verbally abuses her. Neither is good yet the second is less bad than the first, which is my point; China is worse than the U.S. in accusations levelled at the U.S. but doesn't get called out for it by the same people targeting the U.S.

Even with the legalization of gay marriage in the U.S. being recent, it's still something the U.S. - the highly Christian U.S., mind you, OM - has done (the first states to legalize gay marriage in the U.S were Maine, Maryland, and Washington on November 6, 2012), while China - the world's least religious and most atheistic nation (remember this next time you're about to criticize Christian opposition of homosexuality) - has not.
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