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360,623 views 594 upvotes Made by MatthewMan 5 years ago in fun
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5 ups, 5y,
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I'm an optimist, I'm still betting against.

But good meme :-)
7 ups, 5y,
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It ain't gonna happen. Iran's attack last night was done for PR and that's it. They intentionally missed areas where military personnel were at the time of the attack. They knew, and still know, that if they retaliate and cause U.S. loss of life, they will be blasted back to the stone age. The U.S. would most likely target their pathetic excuse for a navy and also all of their Revolutionary Guard forces. Iran could literally be destroyed within a few days. That is 21st asymmetrical warfare for you...never gonna be another world war because there's simply no need. No one's gonna come to the defense of a rogue nation like Iran; not China, and not even Russia! They are simply not worth the trouble. Almost no one's worth that kind of trouble anymore.
5 ups, 5y,
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Actually it would take just a couple of minutes to completely destroy that small country lol
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2 ups, 5y,
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It takes 2 minutes for a nuke to hit it's Target on the other side of the world. Hence the name Minuteman missile.
0 ups, 5y,
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1 up, 5y
Not necessarily. Using a nuclear arsenal unannounced can be seen as a war crime meaning all of America's allies would dissaprove and likely impose harsh punishments on the country. There is also the threat that attacking an enemy with nuclear weapons could result in the retaliation of another hostile country of the same scale. This is why nuclear countries have to be cautious with their bikes: to avoid Armageddon.
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2 ups, 5y,
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eh i'm sure one day WWlll will happen
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3 ups, 5y
I ran to Russia or I'm rushing to Iran
0 ups, 5y
Welp if it did I’m safe
0 ups, 5y
i hope it wont happen then i rather be dead if it happen tho
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2 ups, 5y
Ok
0 ups, 5y,
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Dont be so men to iral, its just a meme dude
0 ups, 5y
"men"? HUH???? And who is "iral"???? You make ZERO sense.
0 ups, 5y,
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I think it's weirder than that. Iran's technical capabilities and precision are such that they could take out Israel badly if they had to, and people knew better than to push.

The reason Russia was so nonchalant was not because they didn't care, but because they were put in the loop that something else was being worked out:

1 up, 5y,
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I vehemently disagree with you about Iran's technical capabilities. They are vastly, vastly, vastly, vastly (4X vastly to be exact) inferior to Israel's. Israel is a nuclear power, no matter what they tell you. Netanyahoo accidentally slipped up on that the other day and then "corrected" himself. If Iran sent even one ballistic missile at Israel, Israel would unleash the might of their military on Iran. Air superiority would be established within days and then Israel would pummel Iran until they either gave up or forced Israel to send in ground troops. Iran is no match for a 21st century military, like Israel, or the U.S, etc. Iran is a decidedly 20th century military. Iran would be no match for Israel. It wouldn't even be close.

I'm not completely discounting that conspiracy theory you posited at the end of your comment. It's entirely possible that Khamenei was annoyed with how far Soleimani was taking things with the U.S. So, maybe it's not a conspiracy theory...it could be looked at as a real explanation for how this all played out.

Iran will be back fairly soon, though. They will attack U.S. interests abroad, again, and possibly even U.S. troops abroad, again. Their proxies will never stop, but direct action from Iran is just around the corner. And the end result, if there ever is one, will be the death of their theocracy and the current regime that rules by it.

Cheers!
0 ups, 5y,
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I suspect you'd find the competent analysts will disagree on the accuracy. These weren't random scud shots, they were precision hits, successfully not taking life.

Israel's lied about its nukes since the 60's. But they're clubs, cudgels, bludgeons. In numbers alone, with this kind of accuracy, Iran could be just as devastating to the Zionist state as vice versa. And I think the Mossad knows it.

For your ground troops argument, Israel has tacticals, but not enough bodies. My answer there is little more than remember what happened with the seven-year Iran-Iraq war.

The cockiness of our retired ex-mili talking heads on the TV shows, swayed by a decidedly Israel-heavy influence, departs from realism. Same way those idiots have absolutely no clue how far Russia has come in the last 30 years.

Except for the very few who are privy to things like their complete electronic disabling of one of our ships, or those who saw what they were capable of in Syria. Those guys understand and are scrambling behind the scenes.

Optimistically, though, I think it's irrelevant, because with particular credit to Trump, we've gotten a lot better at averting anything serious by going backchannel, saving lives in ways the talking heads won't understand for possibly years to come.

Which is fine, as long as the job gets done first. It's kept Bibi from going more bezerko than he already has. It's worth it.
0 ups, 5y,
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THEY SHOT DOWN A PASSENGER AIRLINER DURING THEIR MISSILE BARRAGE!!! THEIR ROCKETS ARE NOT ACCURATE. WHY DID 5 MISS? BECAUSE THEY ARE UNPROVEN, INACCURATE MISSILES. Oops caps lock, sorry. Also, Russia shoots down passenger jets "on accident" too. Clearly, Russia has high technology level, but still, they are sloppy as f#$k.

I totally disagree on Israel's military prowess. They are clearly a nuke country. It has been an easy assumption for decades. The plausible deniability they have in that regard is valuable even if they don't have them...but they clearly do. If you've never heard of the Vela Incident, you should read up on it. Widely believe that Israel was responsible, but possibly along with S. Africa. I did not know that about S. Africa until right now, though. S. Africa tested nukes and verified they did so and then dismantled all of them prior to entering NPT. That I did know. I never knew they were suspected of testing a nuke with Israel, though.

I'm not discounting everything you said. You seem to be very well-read and remember history (7-year Iran-Iraq war). But, I really don't think Iran's ground troops would be a match for Israel's. Even if it is a 100:1 ratio, in favor of Iran. Israel would combine air superiority with tactical and hardware superiority and it would be a slaughter.

Iran is incompetent and too poor to fight a war. They are nothing, absolutely nothing, but saber-rattlers.
0 ups, 5y,
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You missed my point. As anyone versed in the subject knows, Israel lied about NOT having nukes since the 60s, not the other way around.

The USSR was in many respects a 3rd world country - but they could still practically lob a MIRV down your chimney. Iran's no different, and a couple of antiaircrafts on auto doesn't change that. They could pinpoint anything in Tel Aviv down to less than 20 meters, and the analysts know this.

I didn't say Israel couldn't be nasty on the ground. Iraq had the best weapons - including chemicals! - that Don Rumsfeld could sell them. But like in Vietnam, that don't mean shit against a people defending their home ground.

With a US backing - an evil I would never not oppose - they'd go to the ground, but it'd be another Vietnam - and they'd take down Israel with them. Lose-lose. The smart guys at the Pentagon - and a fair number of reps in the Knesset too - know this.
0 ups, 5y
Oh, gotcha! I read your comment as fast as I could and then responded as fast as I could because I'm short on time and I'm in the office still.

I'm not sold on Iran having the technical capabilities you claim they have. They fired 15 missiles. The had a 67% success rate. That is absolutely abysmal. The intelligence coming out now is that they were trying to cause casualties. At first, reports claimed they avoided casualties on purpose. How can anyone be sure? They can't. Not even you.

If someone goes to war with Iran, it will not be like Vietnam. We don't have to fight in the jungle to defeat them. We don't even necessarily have to fight on the ground much to defeat them. They can be mostly defeated from the sea and air. The U.S. war chest is such that they could easily win a battle of attrition that is based on how much money is in the checking account. I believe Israel could do the same; or close to it. Fighting street by street would be totally unnecessary. At some point in a war with Iran, their ability to quell their protesting civilian population would dwindle to nothing because they would have all resources allocated elsewhere. A coup would not be out of the question. Their economy is already in the toilet. The new sanctions will further devastate it.

I think you give Iran WAY too much credit, but we'll have to agree to disagree.

Best regards,

Dankinator
0 ups, 5y,
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plus if there was another world war, it would end in a matter of days because every country nowadays has a nuclear weapon! If even half of those went off, who started what wouldn't matter because life would cease to exist on Earth!
0 ups, 5y
Currently, there are nine nations with nukes: United States, Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea, and Israel. There are between 193 and 195 nation states in the world. So, only about 4.5% of the nation states in the world have nukes. South Africa used to have them, but they disassembled them before they joined the NPT. If a country with nukes used them on a country that doesn't have them, and has no protection treaties with countries that do, there would likely be no kind of nuclear retaliation. It really isn't as bleak of a scenario as you suggest.
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4 ups, 5y
We don't need another world war, but that's some quality content right there my friend, quality.
3 ups, 5y
i need to get i life while i still can!
4 ups, 5y
3 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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1 up, 5y
3 ups, 5y
Lol
2 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y,
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see, but the difference is

America started this one
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1 up, 5y,
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Right after Iran started it. I guess you missed the first act where Soleimani was one of the organizers for the protests of Americas embassy in Iraq. I'm not sure how you missed it, The MSM was reporting most of the day that Trump was getting Benghazi'd.
0 ups, 5y,
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oh, I actually didn't know about that. that is good to know.
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1 up, 5y,
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Not many bothered to check, Fear mongering gets more attention.
0 ups, 5y
fair enough
0 ups, 5y
Other thing that I think is of note: One of the other people killed with Soleimani was part of a group operating in Iraq to try and get the U.S. out of the country.
2 ups, 5y
3 ups, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y,
2 replies
Probably begging for upvotes...
2 ups, 5y,
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why arent you upvoting comments? just curious
1 up, 5y
Idk. But i will
2 ups, 5y,
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how?
1 up, 5y,
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oh whatever. I think not now....
1 up, 5y,
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no why did you think he was begging for upvotes?
1 up, 5y,
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Idk. I don't think that anymore
3 ups, 5y,
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alright
1 up, 5y
ok.
2 ups, 5y
This is sooooo great
I can hear it
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