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I'll never understand how Americans can call their country "Land of the Free" when incidents like this happen on a regular basis

I'll never understand how Americans can call their country "Land of the Free" when incidents like this happen on a regular basis | image tagged in memes,injustice,powermetalhead,politics,police,idiocracy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
556 views 7 upvotes Made by anonymous 5 years ago in politics
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4 ups, 5y,
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Huh? Did I miss something?
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4 ups, 5y,
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There was a police chase with a hostage situation in Miami on this Thursday evening (it was 11:30 here in Europe when it happened, not sure about the US). The cops killed the hostage. And not only that, but some of them used civillians as human shields. "To serve and protect"
3 ups, 5y,
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https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/family-of-ups-driver-killed-after-cross-county-chase-angry-seeking-answers/2159562/

The story doesn't quite match yours. If you have a conflicting account, please post your source in the reply. Skeptical minds first before we jump to conclusions of Fake News. I'd much rather have the facts, if any, that back up arguments that cops were using "civilians as human shields" which is a serious allegation.
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1 up, 5y,
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Here you go: https://mobile.twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/1202961963137093632
2 ups, 5y,
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Thanks! Will read later today. At the hospital now. :)
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1 up, 5y
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No problem. Hope you get better.

And I just want to correct myself. The cops didn't use civillians directly as human shields. They were using their cars as a cover, putting them in direct danger by the gunfire. Still, directly or indirectly, it's disgusting to see them do that. But after all, pic related:
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1 up, 5y,
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Land of the Free... with a risk of being murdered by the very people who "protect" your freedom. Like using a medicine for flu whose packaging says "May cause flu".

Also, this one may be a strawman, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just justify this very murder by the American police and police brutality in general as "risk for being free"? I've seen bad cases of American mental gymnaatics, but this is a whole new league.
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1 up, 5y,
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And I'll also say one more time: Risk of experiencing power abuse by your "protectors" is not freedom and will never be freedom. If you were truly free, the protectors wouldn't exist in the first place. You would be your own protector, just like everybody else, nobody having any special privileges compared to the other.

If you were trying to establish freedom through insurrection, then yeah, getting killed by the police would be a risk of attempted freedom. In any other situation, police brutality is merely a reflection of your enslavement.
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1 up, 5y
You misunderstand me. Freedom always includes danger and risk, else it's not freedom. I agree. But there's a difference between that and experiencing police brutality and the state protecting the abusers.

In the former case, you are seen as just and honourable for defending yourself. In the latter case, you are seen as a terrorist for defending yourself, and the state will defend it's henchmen as much as it's able to. That's not freedom. That's duress and enslavement.

And it's same in all countries. It doesn't matter if the police is on the right or wrong. Lay a finger on them and you'll have a bad time.
Of course, some countries have it better than others. Here in Bosnia, for example, the policemen are allowed to shoot only when they're being shot at. Any other situation, and they end up in court.
In America, on the other hand, incidents like the shooting at the UPS truck and the killing of the hostage happen all the time, and the worst that can happen is the policemen responsible losing their jobs, often with the ability to become cops again afterwards. "Land of the Free"

Hope you get what I'm trying to say. If you're one of those conservatives/libertarians who claim to want small government, you have my respect for that. But I still have to say: A small tumor is still a tumor.
1 up, 5y
Bad stuff happens everywhere. Don’t focus on it. Be aware if it, but don’t go looking for it. On the whole, we are more free than most.
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