And he's higher tier in Smash too. :)

epic gamers are knocking on your door

SANIC IS BETTER

Nah. Look at Mario's success. And Sonic hasn't had a good game in 20 years.

SANIC IS OP IN SSBU BICH

Not really. Look at the top 20 players in the world. Not a one plays Sonic. He's mid tier maybe.

OK AY U WONS BUT U CANT CHANGE MAH MIND ABOUT SANIC

SANIC IS BEST 4 MEEEE

Rip this comment. Sonic is really good in Smash now, though still not Mario's level. :P

The Sonic franchise is way better than Mario's ingrate

I mean, lets not kid ourselves. Sonic hasn't had a great game in the last ten years. Mario Odessy is a contender for greatest Mario game of all time.

What about forces and generations?

I you like them, cool. I was just stating my opinion.

Have u even played one damn sonic game?!!!!

Yep. And I think the best one is Sonic (3) and Knuckles.

Why isn't knuckles or shadow in ultimate already?

Good question. I personally think Knuckles would be better, just because I think a new moveset would be better than Shadow, who would be an echo.