Why Sola Fide

I don't read the bible...

You should! :)

Are you a Christian?

ehh... I'm an aethiest who believes in christian values

Ah, thank you for letting me know.

May I ask, why you've decided to become an Atheist, or went from an Agnostic to an Atheist?

I just don't believe in god

OK.. If you would like, can I give you several reasons why I do believe that God exists?

uh sure

1. The existence of everything around you implies strongly that we did not arrive by accident (the Watchmaker argument)
2. The Bible proved itself as inpired when, every prophecy concerning Jesus' 1st coming, have come to pass
3. Jesus proved the inspiration of scripture when He rose again from the dead; evidenced by the Apostles who've all but one, died for what they saw.

Would you like me to detail each one for you; or, do you have any questions regarding the three?

um sure

1. WATCHMAKER ILLUSTRATION
If you see a watch on the beach, & see that it is more than just an object, it is utterly sophisticated as it moves by itself, caused by intricate mechanisms that make it work, you will not conclude that it formed by itself, but instead believe that it was designed. So is with all that you see. If there is a design, there is a Designer. That designer is God.

2. MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
The following is from Jews for Jesus listing the 40 Prophecies about Jesus that were fulfilled ( https://jewsforjesus.org/answers/top-40-most-helpful-messianic-prophecies/ ). These prophecies are not literal ambiguities, but too specific to be dismissed as verses taken out of context.

For example, Deuteronomy 18:18 speaks of the coming law-giver, like Moses, that the Messiah will be born of a virgin in Isaiah 7:14; that He will be born in Bethlehem (Micha 5:2), that He will suffer & die for our salvation (Isaiah 53:1-6), that He will die on the cross (Psalm 22:16), but He will not remain dead (Psalm 16:10).

The odds of just one prophecy fulfilled is 50:50 in a person's lifetime, and the odds only increases as more & more prophecies are added.

3. THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.
A. DEATH OF CHRIST
None of the prophecies would matter, if Jesus remained dead. He was crucified by a regional power whose known for it's mastery in delivering death to it's victims.

1st He was whipped by a "Cat of Nine Tails" in which individual whip hold anything sharp that when it makes contact with flesh & is puilled, would tear the adhering flesh w/ it.
2nd He was nailed, hand & feet, to a cross that when the victim sags, his/her breathing is constricted so must push him/herself upwards causing more pain & damage. All the while s/he is continually bleeding but slowly from the puncture holes & from the torn back from constant friction.

When the victim lives too long, the knees are broken, thus ensuring death by constriction. BNut Jesus have already died, evidenced by a lance piercing His side, & out poured water & blood. the separation of water & blood only happens when there is no longer circulatory system shuts down, & over time, water & blood separates.

B. RESURRECTION OF CHRIST
As prophecied, Jesus rose physically and bodily again from the dead. The 3 women & 11 Apostles saw Him, one even touched Him (John 20:24-29), & provided them food to eat. They saw Him ascend to heaven, & when they received the Holy Spirit, was when their preaching began.

C. NOT FOR A LIE
As said earlier, all of the Apostles, save one, died for what they saw. It is commonly disputed that so many died for what was false, such as the Vietnam War, but the difference is that no one would so willingly die, for what they truly know is a lie.

The Apostles have nothing to gain in spreading falsehood, for the consequences of their activity is ofhen hatred, persecution, & death at the hands of their own people, & the Romans, which hated them because they would not say "Caesar is Lord" & make the necessary sacrifices to their gods who they believe, holds security, military victory & susitinence in their hands.

Another objection was that the Apostles were dilusional; but that is dismissed by the fact that they touched him (John 20:24-29), ate with & conversed with Him (John 21:4-22). Finally, they saw Him ascend to heaven (Acts 1:11).

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Do you have any questions?

umm... how long did it take yout to type that?

About an hour. I'm a slow typer and had to stop typijng from time to time.

:T

The evidence is laid before you. I can give you more evidence, but I get the impression you're not taking this seriously. Were you expecting evidences that'll blow your mind? Or are you deliberately wasting my time?

If you've meant the former, if I give you a video to watch that list more evidence of the inspiration of scripture, will you watch it? Because that's the best evidence I can give you.

I believe God deliberately gaves only a few evidences, to test whether you're truly care about truth (Hebrews 3:15). If you do, then you will not judge based solely on your own understanding, nor care whether it is palatable (Isaiah 55:8-9). The Bible also says that He resists the proud but gives grace to the humble (James 4:6 & 1 Corinthians 1:24-27).

So are you truly seeking the truth; not based on your own understanding? If so, He will reveal Himself to you as He will open your eyes to see it (Isaiah 55:6-7).

However, if the latter then your willful ignorance will be to your eternal hurt.

Laugh now, but in the end, you will stand before Him and answer for your sinful unbelief; in why you rejected His Son, of whom have suffered and died for your sins (Hebrews 10:31). Afterwards, you will spend an eternity in Hell, where there is no escape and reprieve from your agony. You will live with your mistakes forever.

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60950! I just upvoted this one. Thanks for spreading the Good Word. I wanted to add you as moderator of the Catholic Stream because even though you're not Catholic you have a good knowledge of scripture and respectful way of addressing other beliefs while at the same time defending the Catholic Church better than some Catholics. I hope you're accept. I need to take a leave of absence from imgflip for awhile.

Oh and thank you for Upvoting mine; I do appreciate it. :)

Hi Kate, I feel honored that you've chosen me to moderate for that Stream. I accept;. :)

Thank you. I feel confident you'll respect the aims of that stream and help others to do the same. God bless you my brother in Christ.

You too my friend.

feel free to message me here: http://palringo.im/u/78660074?r=78660074

Just arrived at 2nd site

Hi Kate, thank you; and that's also a good idea that we as moderators can discuss things in relations to.

I'm there.

I don't see you. Perhaps try this group then we can connect. http://palringo.im/catholics?r=78660074

I've just sent you a message on palringo.