I don't know why you're here, but I'm on ImageFlip so I can understand how liberals think, and try to convince them that conservatives can hold logical views. We can't convince them we're right until we at least convince them we're logical.
I don't have anything against you personally, but I think that this argument with Octavia was disrespectful and beside the point.
You wanna know a secret? I like to argue respectfully because it gets my point across. If you call them a liar and full of ****, they won't listen to you. Period. But if you try to convince them that your views are logical, then you can build respect. Respect converts into an understanding of each other's position, which converts into ceded points (I.E. winning arguments.)
That's my playbook. It's worked well so far.