But That's None Of My Business

Yep. Catholics being the most against abortion have the most organizations to help pregnant women choose life, not death.

That's awesome. ...and as someone who used to be a liberal, of course there are excetions, it's a general argument.

Yeah

What do you mean on the backs of minorities? Christians have pulled more people, including minorities, out of poverty, and have been more responsible for generosity and hospitality than any other group.

How convenient that Christians who have warred, enslaved, and tortured have an enormous wealth and power to help those less fortunate than themselves. I wonder where they got it? Oh yeah, from other people. They've stolen land, stolen people, and stolen everything they've earned only to now peddle their religion of peace.

There is no such thing as a religion of peace and anyone who thinks that is severely deluded. And I will not feed your pointless propaganda programmed-mind despite all the great things Christians have been able to do. If they want my respect? Their churches can pay their Go***amn taxes. And then they can have all the Theocracy powers they can earn in a true capitalistic fashion.

Do you really want me to go through 2000 years of History to tell you why you're absolutely wrong on every front because I can.

Several things:

Yes Christians are not perfect, but Christ said to follow Him, not His followers.

You're planting Christianity under a huge umbrella term and you're suggesting that anyone who has ever had anything to do with Christianity, rather legitimate or not and if it was bad, it was because of Christianity and not because of imperfect evil people.

Christianity does not support slavery. Now I know that you're going to be eager to scour through the Bible and pick out any hints of slavery that you see but you can save your time and rest assured that I have studied this and I can tell you with certainty, the slavery which existed here in the United States would have been condemnable by death according to the Bible.

I can't think of any war that Christians have faught for that hasn't been a just war. Perhaps there are some, but you're conflating the issue, again you are blaming the failures of Christians and equating that to Christianity itself. Nowhere in Christianity does it support the murder of another.

I agree with you, there is no such thing as a religion of Peace because all religion leads to Hell. True Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship with Christ. Having said that you should take into consideration that Atheism has murdered many more people than those who have done evil and have claimed Christianity.

Christians do pay their taxes. Jesus said to Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. The point of Christians being tax exempt -rather the churches, is because the government recognizes that we can do far more good with our charity then the government can do with their non charitable programs. Even so Jesus has called us to be Salt and Light, not tax exempt.

Christians do not want a theocracy Christ teaches that we are subject to the powers thereof. He teaches that Satan is the god of this world, that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers, and rulers of darkness in high places. Wheel of Fortune to the day when Christ returns as keen and sets up his kingdom on Earth.

Christians have nothing to do with Jesus's teachings. They're the main ones responsible for polluting his teachings.

Perhaps some believe, as you do, that your religion is somehow execempt or that it follow's his word to the letter.

It does not.

You can preach at me all day but all I hear is you preaching at me to hate a group that thinks differently than you do and is trying to take control of their lives from underneath the influence of the church.

Like it or not, there is blood on Christian's hands and no amount of forgiveness, prayer, or retribution will ever wipe that clean. Nor will Christian control of this great nation absolve you of your sins.

And shame on you for believing that your relationship with someone who was good 2000 years ago is more important than your relationship with your fellow human beings. There is no relationship with Jesus. Just his words. Read his words. Practice what HE preaches. Don't preach his word. Show people his good deeds in your actions not in your words. Thats how you gain followers.

Not posting Memes about how people should remember all the good deeds Christians have done. The deeds are meaningless if they must be willingly observed....

"When you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, so that your giving may be in secret."

Okay I can't take you seriously because you don't even know what it means to be a Christian. Jesus didn't come to sing Kumbaya with the world He says clearly in his word that he came to divide not to unite.

Jesus didn't say that we couldn't state that Christians are the most giving group if any people . He was saying, that when it comes to the individual Christian, thst we should have an attitude of giving that is humble and we shouldn't be doing it to glorify ourselves publicly. It does say however that when we give, we are to give in the name of Christ so that God will be glorified.

I never posted any memes about how Christians should be remembered by The Good Deeds. I posted this name because I was calling out a fallacy which suggests that Christians do not want to take care of people after they're born even though clearly and factually we are the most charitable of any organization.

Actually you are correct, there is blood on certain Christian hands, and the blood of Christ wipes ALL SIN clean. He says for there is therefore no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.

And no we don't have a relationship with the words of Jesus. We have a personal relationship with Him. The Bible could not be more clear on that. Jesus said many will come to me in That Say saying: Lord Lord did we not do all these greatand wonderful things in your name, and in your name cast out demons, and in your name perform great Miracle, then He will say to them: Depart from me you that work iniquity, I NEVER KNEW YOU. Jesus is called the friend that sticks closer than a brother, He is called our brother, He is called the first of many Brethre, He is called the Son of Man Jesus did come to have a perspnal relationship with us. There are many other places in scripture which say this but Jesus Himself said that we are going to take part in His inheritance as joint heirs, so yes He does want a relationship. Jesus wasn't just good he was God and he didn't just live 2,000 years ago he is currently alive.

Nowhere where did I suggests that I hate you or anyone.

I'm sorry that you cannot see how unhealthy religion is for you. It is like a drug. I makes you feel good. It makes you feel powerful. But the moment that you aren't a good little soldier under it's control, they cast you out. And it doesn't take much. All you have to do is be different. Just a little different.

I've grown up going to Church. I know how it is in there. It is no different than a cult of sycophants and hypocrites. I would not say all Christians are terrible, but those who cannot be kind or cruel without it's message are the worst.

You know I'm trying to have a civil discussion with you and you're going off on arbitrary verses from the Bible and I tangent on what you perceive to be Christianity.

Let me start over. This is my premise: I'm simply saying that Christianity is pro-life, those who hate God love death. That's what scripture says. There's this argument that exist in society that suggests that Christians no longer care for human beings once they're born and I'm simply saying that historically that's not the case, and although we're not perfect you have to understand that in Christendom there are people who are genuine Christians, who are not perfect, and there are people who use Christianity as a crutch, who are not perfect, and there are evil people who are not Christians that claim Christianity. The Bible makes it abundantly clear that many will come in the Name of Christ teaching false doctrine.

It sounds to me like you've had a bad experience in church, perhaps it was the Catholic church, I don't know, but Christ never said follow my followers, he said follow me.

It was Protestant. They're the worst. I'm glad you want to be civil but the fact of the matter is, that I'm not a fan of religion and your religion says I hate God and love death. I don't hate you personally. Hate the drug, not the addict. See, I'm not bound by religion to affect my decisions on people. I've already said I follow some of what Jesus taught and that I don't blame him for his unsavory followers. Just because I don't treat it like a relationship doesn't mean I don't understand. And if you think that means I am going to Hell? Well, to me, Hell is immortality. Living constantly with everyone I know becoming dust. That just isn't what I want. I'm not waiting for death though. Quite the opposite. I want to live NOW. Not forever. And people that stand in the way of that? They don't get much respect from me.

Okay so it sounds like to me you're not a fan of the Christian religion and you're saying religion but really your worldview that you perceive and practice is religion.

I'm sorry you think Protestants are the worst because I do think that they are a very solid group for the most part.

It's not my religion says this on my religion says that it's what scripture actually teaches. Scripture teaches that those who love death hate God. Those are not my words those are God's.

I would be careful calling followers of Christ unsavory followers if you yourself cannot identify as a boyfriend Christian because Jesus said my sheep hear my voice and they follow me. Christians will never be perfect this side of Eternity but if we are true Christians then I wouldn't consider it wise to bash God's people.

I think you understand biblical Concepts to some degree but you don't have a proper hermeneutical understanding of what God's word actually says and teaches.

So you said you want to live now not forever, the problem is you don't get to dictate truth. Jesus said that because He conquered death everyone will live eternally somewhere, that is that is either Heaven or Hell. You don't get to choose whether or not you cease to exist. You do get to choose rather or not you go to heaven but that is based on what you do with Jesus not what you do with yourself.

I want you to have life more abundant, but the only way for you to do that is to drop your worldview and call of Jesus personally. It says Revelation that he is standing at the door to your heart knocking and if you open the door he will come into you and you will have a relationship with him, the two things that you have to do or repent of your sins, turn from your sins, acknowledge them and put your faith and trust in God for salvation. It's not a works based faith. The difference between God a religion is the fact that God came to find the lost we didn't go to find God there's nothing we can do to earn God's favor except trust in the one who died in our place.

I'm going to put this succinctly as I can.

No thanks.

Well I don't know why I can't reply to you. I hope you meet Christ one day as Savior. I think we just disagree on the premise that Christianity is evil because imperfect sinful people who claim to follow it, do bad things, just like every other group of people including atheists and agnostics, and therefore you have an excuse not to follow Christ because you feel like like you were personally offended, and that excuses you from looking into Christianity as truth. Have a nice day they I'm still willing to have this conversation but it's your move.