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The creator and promoters of the term white privilege unknowingly promote hate and division. | If fair and just treatment in society is considered the ideal norm; and white males are allegedly the only ones that receive this treatment; THEN WHY IS IT CALLED "A PRIVILEGE"? BEING TREATED NORMAL ISN'T AN ADVANTAGE. BEING ECONOMICALLY ADVANTAGED IS REAL PRIVILEGE. Why call it "white privilege" when it's really just a black disadvantage? Perhaps those that promote this subtle misnomer would rather you focus on blame, envy and resentment instead of helping you accurately identify the root causes of your struggles. CREATED BY: SHANE CARLSON | image tagged in white privilege,class privilege,black struggle,black privilege,feminism,3rd wave feminism | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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0 ups, 5y
Your post made me laugh. You're definitely not wrong. There are plenty of people that intentionally try to create conflicts with this shit and we know they're fully aware of what they are doing and the consequences of their words. My post was more so directed towards those that are gullibly perpetuate some of these false ideas. I write my memes with the intentions of waking people up.
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why is this in "fun"?

didn't u say u were also "tired of seeing a bunch of old, straight, white males with antiquated ideas still holding the majority of power"?

can't shorthand for that phrase be "white privilege"?

isn't it a privilege to hav the majority of power?

or these antiquated white males-- r u saying them having the majority of power is the "norm?
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There are two choices. I either put it in fun or politics, I chose fun.

The term "white privilege" was a term coined by Peggy Mcintosh to describe (paraphrased) "the natural perks that go along with being a white male". In other words, in her assessment, White males don't experience some of the same negative social experiences that others do. For example... Women get whistled at and cat called on the street and black men have problems when walking in areas that are racist towards them.

These ideas are not entirely incorrect but white males (if attractive) are not without their experiences and fair share of female (or sometimes male) cat callers and harassers. And there are plenty of areas where white males cannot walk where it would be difficult to avoid being targeted for being the wrong skin color.

One group of people may find themselves to have more negative experiences than other groups and individual experiences and circumstances vary.

Can "white privilege" be shorthand to describe old, straight, white males with antiquated ideas who the majority of power?

Well, they are white and if they posses a good deal of wealth or power, then yes, they are technically white privileged but let's not start confusing white privilege with class privilege.
As Feminists themselves like to make the distinction clear between the two. Anyone who possesses wealth or power is apart of the privileged class no matter what their gender or ethnicity is.
Actual "white privilege" is suppose to be an issue not tied to wealth or power. The claim is that any white male regardless of social status still possesses some magical trait that allows him to NOT have disadvantages that others have by default.

A system or I should say country where the overwhelming majority of people in control are white males can sometimes in rare cases be advantageous to a white male. But these situations are almost always circumstantial and would require a person in power to grant favor to someone who is a white male for being a white male. In fact, I'm having a difficult time trying to think of a situation that is NOT circumstantial. Example, Police officer or judge giving you a break or a pass because that person in power happens to be a racist but if you were black or hispanic. Their decision would be not in your favor.
Isn't it a privilege to have the majority of power? Once again, that is a class privilege. Being born white doesn't automatically grant you $$$$
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It is difficult at best to debate via this system, and I'll confine my comments to one idea: it is not a magical trait that allows him not to hav disadvantages it is his white maleness. Quota systems were developed to integrate non-white males or additionally females into various types of endeavors simply because white males were the default population. To say the cases in which it is advantageous to be a white male in this country is naive at best. Really.
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...advantageous to be a white male in this country-- are rare --is naive.
0 ups, 5y
quota systems? Are you talking about quota systems for immigration in the 1920's?
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Naive huh? Then give me examples of "my maleness"...lol Correction, I mean my "male white privilege"? I can almost feel your hate through the words you choose to type.
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It is not hate altho it is extreme frustration. It is frustration at my inability to express to u what people who r not white and not male feel on a daily basis that I can't help u understand.

It is not hate and the frustration is not directed at anyone personally.

One thing I thought of was to mention India's caste system. I believe in the US we hav several caste systems that we don't acknowledge.

One u spoke of is based on money. Absolutely agree with u that money is a seperater and divides us. Real wealth = real power. Agree.

Another caste system has to do with just being everyday people. When I spoke of quotas I meant the ways we hav tried to integrate daily life to introduce to everyone what may hav been previously granted to white males. Voting rights. Integrating schools (trying to remove racial barriers). Access to housing. I think of quotas in terms of hiring and the goal of diversity-- trying to diversify from the white male workforce.

Last thought and I will close with this and this is not motivated by hate or jealousy or anything other than frustration. We walk around with biases and I believe again a sort of caste system in our heads. I think still the white males r at the top. We almost had the first all female spacewalk-- which means up until now every spacewalk involved a male and the majority of the males would hav been white. Minorities and women r noted when they achieve something that has only been done by white males before. White males hav never -- not -- had access to anything in this country. Everything in this country has been and still is available to white males. Not so for minorities and not so for females. That is the privilege that white males hav had and still hav.
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It is very hard to get a sense of someone's level of intensity or for how they are feeling by way of text. The reason I got a sense of hatred and anger from you was in your use of the word "maleness" which was unnecessarily overemphasizing a specific gender.

However I realize that by my use of the word "magical" may have been one of the primary causes of your anger or frustration. I'll admit that my use of that word was a gentle jab and a mocking of your established beliefs. So from this moment going forward I will do my best to avoid such language.

Frustration is created and formed for many reasons....
Sometimes it is the result of dealing with someone stubborn and close minded.
Or
If the person your trying to educate is not grasping your idea, concepts or information.
Or contrarily
The person trying to provide the information is struggling because they themselves...
A) Don't possess enough knowledge to properly explain the subject matter in a way that is effective enough to change the others mind.
B) Is NOT capable of convincing the other that their points on the matter are correct due to a lack of credible evidence.

With (B) This is usually due to the persons unwillingness to recognize their own personal biases which renders them incapable of recognizing their own cognitive dissonance.

To assume that a women is "incapable" of doing something well just because she is a women is as equally sexist when one assumes that I woman "CAN" do something really well just because she is a woman. This statement holds true for anyone of any gender and ethnicity.

caste systems: Yes, an unfortunate reality in life and in nature is the fact that anyone who is better at something or who possesses certain Dominant attributes that almost guarantee success will find themselves somewhere on the top of the caste system pyramid. To blame "white males" for holding dominant control of the U.S. is as bad as blaming a woman for being born a woman or a black man for being born black etc...

When playing the board game monopoly do you blame the winner for acquiring the majority of the properties and winning? Throughout human history, people have competed for dominance and control for land, resources and most importantly cultural domination. Why? Because each culture wants to prevent way of life from being erased from history.
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2nd part of comment continued...

The fact that white males hold almost full control and power of the country is circumstantial and has everything to do with history. Does anyone go around blaming and questioning why Japanese males have maintained control and dominance over Japan? No, of course not because that would be silly. Why blame Japanese men for successfully gaining control and ownership over a very large island land mass? And what's worse is that the Japanese culture is very sexist in many ways in comparison to American standards.

I understand the whole purpose for why there is a push for equality. The efforts to try and make everything equal is ideal. I agree with the concept and it's a morally good and noble endeavor but there is one major problem and fact in reality that is completely ignored by radical idealists. Not everyone is equal....

It's an unfortunate reality that many who are idealists (myself included) have to eventually face. Smart people typically go on to create great things while not so smart people are forced into positions in life where they have to suffer the penalties of not being as smart as others. Driven, aggressive and highly motivated people strive to succeed and lazy, unmotivated people accomplish very little success if any.

Despite what your gender (theoretical) studies professor may have taught you in class. Women and mens brains differences are gender specific. That's not to say, that all men's brains are wired exactly the same and all women's brains are wired exactly the same but all scientific research on the subject matter has unequivocally proven that these differences in men versus women are distinctly different from one another. Which is exactly why men are dominant in certain industries/jobs and women dominate in others. There is no grand conspiracy or cooperative effort to keep women from acquiring jobs on oil rigs or high rise building construction or engineering just as there is no preventative measures in place to prevent men from getting jobs as nurses or daycare providers.

Men and women just have natural preferences based on multiple factors. Promoting the "idea" for women to get involved in fields of work that they wouldn't have otherwise considered before is one thing but convincing women that the reason these industries have a lack of women in them is because of a sexist conspiracy by white males is a dishonest tactic used by people with a personal agenda.
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If fair and just treatment in society is considered the ideal norm; and white males are allegedly the only ones that receive this treatment; THEN WHY IS IT CALLED "A PRIVILEGE"? BEING TREATED NORMAL ISN'T AN ADVANTAGE. BEING ECONOMICALLY ADVANTAGED IS REAL PRIVILEGE. Why call it "white privilege" when it's really just a black disadvantage? Perhaps those that promote this subtle misnomer would rather you focus on blame, envy and resentment instead of helping you accurately identify the root causes of your struggles. CREATED BY: SHANE CARLSON