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If you exist, it’s safe to believe there is a higher being. Especially a being that divided itself into male and female.
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Ah, Pascal’s Wager.
It does nothing to prove the actual existence or nature of God. It's not an argument for the existence of god at all, actually; essentially an argument against atheism based on the relative opportunity versus cost of belief.
Pascal’s wager assumes a very narrow and specific definition of God. Even if there were a god, there is simply no way to know that the assumptions laid out in the wager are actually accurate. For example, why would an all-powerful and benevolent deity banish his creations to Hell for disbelief? It’s equally likely that a deity might reward his followers for being skeptical, in which case Pascal’s wager crumbles. Moreover, believing in God simply to avoid the punishment of Hell is an empty type of belief. Surely, an all-knowing god could identify this insincerity and reward only true believers, not those who worshiped just to avoid consequences.
And since most gods or omniscient, shouldn’t he (or she… Or they) know the exact argument that would propel us to believe? Where is the love?
What's the harm in believing some would ask?
Pascal suggests that there is nothing to lose in believing, even if God is not real. This is not necessarily true. Belief in God can come with a high price for some. Some of the most powerful nations in the world are making major political decisions based on a belief in God. Wars are fought using religion, and the rights of some individuals and groups are oppressed in the name of God. The lives of billions of people around the world are affected by religious beliefs. Blindly accepting claims and making decisions as if they were true in the hope that our chosen deity exists and will reward our efforts seems like a very poor wager when there is no evidence to support that choice and especially if real people are suffering as a result.
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Some people would still believe in a higher power, without even knowing if there is or isn’t a Hell. If I had no idea about religion, I would assume the sun would be as close to God and the celestial than anything else. I also didn’t know about Pascal’s Wager, I came up with that off rip. How could the first man have appeared without assistance? Why is pleasure so damn good, fun and exciting? It seems hard to accept because we rule over animals and plants but we have not had so many encounters with other beings ruling over us.
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1. Which higher power?
2. Oh, and hell doesn't exist except in people's minds.
3. Evolution has perfectly explained how man arose countless times.
4. The existence of pleasure isn't proof or even evidence of a god.
5. Tell people eaten by sharks or bears or that are allergic to peanuts or get cancer from tobacco (plants we "rule" over, right?) that they're ruling.
The "personal relationship" people have with their god/deity is honestly just a deep-seated, heartfelt, and active relationship with themselves, with THEIR own ego. There is no god. There is no deity. Their relationship is within the confines of their own mind. This is why their god can seem so very real to them. In a sense, he is real. HE ... is THEM. This is why their god's opinions are so very often their opinions. This is why two believers of the same religion can both claim to agree with god's opinion but not with each other's. When they pray and god gives them "answers," they THEMSELVES are the source of those instincts, those intuitions, those feelings, those "insights." When they pray and believe they're hearing the voice of god, they're simply having a conversation with themselves and don't want realize it. This is why god can always assuage the doubts of the believer. Their "god" knows exactly how they think because he is THEM. He knows their tastes, their biases and all the gaps in their logic.
Therefore it follows that "he" knows what arguments they will find compelling and what mental gymnastics they're capable of to ignore any arguments to the contrary and the way they'll neatly make everything fit into their worldview, excusing and ignoring anything that doesn't fit. He knows how they'll move the targets to accommodate their beliefs, how they'll excuse the most horrific behaviors by him in his book. He knows how they'll excuse murder, **pe, torture, ignoring the pleas of innocent people, killing those who aren't in the right tribe, abortion, or enslaving people and then beating them within an inch of their lives.
Doubting their salvation or their faith is evidence that their minds are fighting back against the ridiculous concept that an inter dimensional being actually exists and cares about their individual lives ... or any human life for that matter. I probably can't convince them of anything I stated above because of the very fact that it is, in fact, true. THEY are their "god".
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The next time you hear someone preaching or waxing poetic about god, Jesus, Mohamed or Joseph Smith, change all the names and pronouns you hear them say, in your mind, so that they refer to the person speaking and trust me you will get a whole new perspective on life. This is why believers have such a strong emotional reaction whenever they encounter a non-believer. They simply misperceive the non-believers rational skepticism about the supernatural as an assault on their "god" ... which is to say, an assault on their own personal identity. There are a vast multitude of religions and superstitious beliefs in the world that espouse many mutually contradicting doctrines. Therefore they cannot all be true. but they can certainly all be false. Even if one were actually proven to be true it would still follow that human beings have a rather remarkable propensity for making up entire religions and excusing all sorts of injustices committed in their name.
After spending the first 52 years of my life as a staunch believer, I have become convinced that all religions and other supernatural beliefs are cultural phenomena of a purely human making as science slowly dismantles all those beliefs. The old "god of the gaps" phenomenon gets more and more silly as each gap in our knowledge and understanding is filled with scientific discovery and explanations that actually make sense. "Faith" is no longer required to explain the common cold, comets, viruses, eclipses, birth defects, pregnancy, death, disease, mental disorders, chance, dreams, even those "tingly" intuitions that you attribute to an invisible deity.
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Hmmm, I do see your point as I’v heard that God exists in your mind, and I like the thought that “I am God” but I can’t dare say I am the creator of all that we see here and we’re the reason. But yes, I am my own God!
Dare say *I’m the reason”
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EVER NOTICE HOW GOD NEVER DOES ANYTHING TO THE ATHEISTS WHO DISMISS, INSULT AND BLASPHEME HIM? IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE DOESN'T EXIST!
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