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How Can Earth Be IN the Heavens and UNDER the Heavens At the Same Time? Somethin' Ain't Right, I Tell Ya!

How Can Earth Be IN the Heavens and UNDER the Heavens At the Same Time? Somethin' Ain't Right, I 
 Tell Ya! | "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and ALL the high hills, that [were] under the WHOLE heaven, were covered." - Gen 7:19 KJV; HUH??? ALL the mountains under the ENTIRE heavens were covered with the waters of Noah's flood?? Then, apparently, the only mountains UNDER the entire heavens are on EARTH . . . not on Mars, the moon, etc. IT'S CLEAR THAT EARTH IS NOT IN THE HEAVENS | image tagged in heaven,meme,flat earth,biblical cosmology,noah's flood,nasa hoax | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Yes!! And what some people don't realize is we're going to put our faith in: A) God and His Word, or B) His Enemy and those who hate/oppose Him. Everyone that believes in the Ball Earth has put his FAITH in the "scientists" and in the heliocentric lie that we were sold. This is where we must wake up and realize (and confess) that we have put our faith in the creature rather than the Creator. ;-) ~ I Cor. 2:5; Rom. 1:20,22,25; Jer. 8:9; Psa. 118:8; Mk. 11:22; Psa. 40:4; Jer. 17:5
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Genesis 1 is a basic chronology of the Act of Creation. Genesis 2 is clearly a retelling of individual days. Genesis 2 does not indicate that the animals were formed after man; it's simply a secondary mention of the fact that they were made, then brought to Adam after he was made. Obviously, they were brought to him on the sixth day . . . the same day that Eve was formed.

As far as Adam's age, he did "die" on the day that he ate the fruit in the sense that he instantly transformed from an immortal to a mortal--his mortality signifying that death now presided in his body. His immortality "died" that day. To "die" in Hebrew does not necessarily mean to fall down dead at that instant (though it can; it depends upon context). It can also mean to fail, to perish, to (be) destroyed. His perfection failed and was destroyed in that day. He perished from perfection into sin; from eternal life into physical death.

Here's another thought: John 3:16 says that whosoever believes in Jesus will not perish (die) but have everlasting LIFE. Does that mean that when I'm old and feeble, I'll never see a grave? Clearly not. The wages of sin are death; we are all sinners; we all die.

What about these passages? "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" (John 11:25-26)

Does this mean I'm immortal? Not in my physical flesh per se; but Jesus Christ grants me eternal LIFE through Him rather than to perish and DIE by spending eternity in hell. DEATH and hell are cast into the Lake of Fire ultimately. Those that are judged at the Great White Throne Judgment (which, quite frankly, have just been raised from the DEAD, brought back to life, and then have DEATH pronounced upon them again . . . huh?) and found ungodly will be cast into the Lake of Fire. This is the Second Death. We are limiting the definition of "death" by our mortal understanding, but "death" is far more involving when we transcend our earthly plane and involve eternity and a host of extenuating spiritual applications. Adam and Eve did not know death before eating of the Tree. They knew death the instant after, as it overtook and canceled out their immortality.
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Succinct and accurate. Well done.
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Thank you. :-)
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Right? LOL!
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Go bone up on Biblical Cosmology to get the answer to your question, OM.

Who knows what's around it? Who knows what the ends of the earth look like? Never been there; can't tell ya. But a connection between the ends of the earth and the edges of the heavens (placed upon/above the earth like a dome/roof/canopy, etc.) are biblically-supported. It's like asking, "What's around the edge of your living room floor, if it's flat?"

Remember the planetariums we went to as kids? We sat on the "floor," and the "ceiling"--which housed the luminaries--revolved above us. Same idea in Biblical Cosmology. The floor would be the earth and seas, and the revolving ceiling the heavens/firmament.
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That is what is apparent throughout the Bible, as well as other extra-biblical texts that support the Bible. Think "snowglobe." Although I contend that the earth is very deep, as the Bible indicates that as well. I don't believe it's a flat, pancake-like disc.
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That verse literally translates from Hebrew into: “He suspends the earth on/over/above without-what?” as best as I can render and according to a Hebrew interlinear. How in the world that can be best translated into English is anyone’s guess, but I can’t make real heads or tails out of it. The word “on” in Hebrew can mean “over” or “above” just as clearly. So all things must be taken into context. (In fact, the words “over”[the empty place] and “upon”[nothing] in that verse are the same word in Hebrew: “al.”) I personally interpret this to say/suggest: “He hangs/suspends the earth [dry land] over nothing(ness).

Rob Skiba poses an interesting concept: “He hangs the earth on nothing, as in: on no. thing.” In other words, it isn’t hanging on *anything*, as it is, quite literally, floating on a bunch of water (or somehow founded on/“planted” in the water, etc.). (Ps. 24:2; 136:6)

Here you will see that, according to the Strong’s Concordance of the KJV Bible, “nothing” in Job 26:7 is, in fact, understood as “nothingness” or, literally, “not anything.” https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1099.htm

One must also consider the “bottomless pit” that is described in Scriptures. It is plain to see, upon deeper study, that this void goes deep inside and/or deep beneath the earth . . . which itself (earth) is seated in the great deep. Or perhaps the very bottom of the earth (down in the depths of the great deep) leads into this void/pit/deep place. This causes me to postulate: “He suspends the earth/dry land over nothingness: over the void (perhaps the bottomless pit).” ??
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Consider also mentions in Jonah 2:3-6, which passages talk of the deep and present the “bottoms of the mountains” reaching well into the deep. Job 28:5 refers to the appearance of fire under the earth. We read also of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone (Rev. 19:20; 20:10,14,15), where unrepentant sinners shall be cast. I presume this is the place “under the earth” that is mentioned in Phil. 2:10 and Rev. 5:3,13. Merely my assumption for now. I’ve never been down there and have never seen it, so don’t take my word for it. ;-) There is a “pit” which is said to be “in the nether parts of the earth” mentioned several times in the Bible and it alludes to a great hollow. The Bible also refers to the earth “opening her mouth” and swallowing particular sinners down into “the pit.” (Num. 16:30)

All that said, Job 26:7 says: “He stretcheth out the north over the empty place.” The empty place in Hebrew is “tohu,” and this is exactly how the earth is described in Genesis 1:2: “tohu” (empty) and “bohu.” The North is sometimes referred to in Scriptures as God’s dwelling place. (Psa. 48:2; Is. 14:13; Eze. 1:4) So this passage may merely be confirming that He “stretches out [His seat in Heaven] over the empty (as yet uninhabited, solitary, uncultivated) [earth].” Hence, the physical connection/bond between heaven and earth. Perhaps possibilities indicated in Scripture. ?

An interesting read, which parallels my thought to some degree:
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8166/does-job-26-7-confirm-the-earth-is-floating-in-outer-space
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It depends upon context, again, even as in English: "They divided the land (region)" . . . "They arrived on land" (as opposed to on the sea). Unless the Bible is clearly speaking about a local region, it is generally understood to be talking about the whole of the ground we walk upon/inhabit when referring to "the earth." Genesis 1 makes it clear that only the "dry land" is earth, where God is concerned. (It doesn't have to be "dry," as in there's no water attached or connected to it whatsoever; it simply means "dry ground" as opposed to the sea.)

According to Genesis 1 (and many other scriptures), the "earth" is ONLY the land/dry ground. It never includes the sea or the air/heavens above the earth. The birds are said to fly "above the earth" in the "open firmament of heaven"; so it seems to include our breathing air as the "first heaven." Birds are always referred to as "fowl of the heavens" throughout the Bible.

I take Job 26:7 to be referencing either the North "Pole" or some northern aspect of the heavens as it applies to the earth beneath it (possibly directly beneath it--lots of interesting info about Polaris/North Pole/empty place at the North on earth--??); thus, I take the reference to "earth" in this verse as applying to all of the earth. Keep in mind, whenever I say "earth," I am never referring to the heliocentric ball.
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Just as well, per the heliocentric model, "the world" is considered to be "planet Earth," with water and air encasing a ball of clay. Conversely, "the world" in the Bible apparently applies to the whole of God's creation as we witness it from "within" the great deep: the heavens, the earth, and the sea as a composite. That is certainly my conclusion after much study.
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"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and ALL the high hills, that [were] under the WHOLE heaven, were covered." - Gen 7:19 KJV; HUH??? ALL the mountains under the ENTIRE heavens were covered with the waters of Noah's flood?? Then, apparently, the only mountains UNDER the entire heavens are on EARTH . . . not on Mars, the moon, etc. IT'S CLEAR THAT EARTH IS NOT IN THE HEAVENS