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A few evil Jews vying for world domination doesn't make them all bad.

What do you mean when you've called the few Jews "...vying for world domination" as " ...evil..." but at the same time say, that it "...doesn't make them all bad"?

I'm saying that certain antisemitic arguments are valid, there are indeed a few "evil" Jews attempting to conquer the world with their wealth, but that doesn't mean that all Jews are bad. It just means that a very selfish group that's trying to screw over everyone happens to be Jewish. There's no need to go full blown antisemitic about it, it could have been anyone and in fact not all of the people involved in that world domination scheme are Jewish, just the richest family.

I still don't understand what illuminati's are all about, but this topic seems to be similar to something I'm researching.

The entire narrative of Zionist Conspiracy focuses on the Jews as the arch-enemy of mankind. Maybe your narrative is a kinder version but historically it is far different.

You may only say that only the Rothchilds are the ones behind it, but then why is it not called "Rothchild Conspiracy"? It should be thus called because nothing about the theory is Jewish, or Zionist

It is neither Jewish because nothing in the Old Testament or even the Talmud ever encouraged conquest; or is it Zionist. The Zionist movement was never... about the conquest of the world but only to return to the land of Israel, hence, ZION. And Zion refers to not the world, but the mountain... found only in Israel.

So why is the theory in question called Zionist Conspiracy if it was not thoroughly Antisemitic in origin?:

I don't know. I've been keeping the religious stuff out of my research. I'm only interested in the players, their acquisitions, their motives, and how they are impacting my country. Most of the players aren't even Jewish.

My guess is that they're all a bunch of fanatics that got carried away with knowledge that was beyond their mental capacity.

The ideological context is as important as the players themselves as it provides motivation behind their actions.

For example, what drives the Bolshevists to do what they do? Communism; a mid to late 19th century political Enlightenment theory that by revolting against the Beoguis by the workers (Proletariat) class struggle is eliminated which, in their view, was a source of oppression.

What drove the Nazis to do what they do? Bolshevism and International Jewry (Zionist Conspiracy). They, in their minds, are on a mission to eliminate both but not only that, ensure the survival of the Master Race by world conquest.

What motivated IS (Islamic State) to do what they do? Islam. but a particular camp of, in which the religion of the Prophet must be spread by the sword. The world in their view is Dar al-Harib, "House of War", must thus be forced to become Dar al-Islam: House of Islam.

And what drives the Elders of Zion, that is, according to the "Protocol of the Elders of ZIon"? World Peace. They want to bring about world peace but they do so by instigation, poisoning, causing calamity, violence, famine, ... basically a Blood Libel for the 20th century. But like I said, what is so Jewish and Zionist about Zionist Conspiracy? Nothing, thus renders this work as a mere product of hatred.

Yeh, I can't think of anything Jewish that promotes world domination. The haters just have info that they believe justifies their antisemitism.

None of my research has pointed towards religious or even cultural motivation behind the world domination scheme of the players. As far as I can tell it's just greed and competition to see who can rake in the most money. I might be missing something, though.

friend, I know that what you're reading is to you compelling, but if there is such a secret organization bent on taking over the world, then why hasn't it being dismantled already by the world's intelligence agencies, if they've actually existed as a global entity?

Think about it, every world leader desires to stay in power for noble and/or selfish reasons. And to keep their power, they not only have the militaries and law enforcement but also their intelligence agencies. If there is a secret group wishing to topple governments they would soon know those behind it.

You believe that the Rothschilds are behind many of the evils of this world as they instigated wars, caused famine, disease, and bought off civil servants. Aside from the civil servants, all of the calamities they've caused cost the government money, time, and manpower to care for it's citizens.

And back to politicians, every politician have rivals; if the Rothschilds bought them, their opposition would soon know the financiers aiding their opponents.

Now let's say that they owned several major international banks, thus have a powerful means of leverage. If they wanted one government to affect Socialist change, then other governments, opposed to, would act against banks to reduce its influence. Even if Socialism becomes popular throughout the world, banks owned by the Rothschilds could only do so much if they want to dominate the world. It is one thing to spread a political ideology, it is another to personally control governments.

To do that involve thousands, if not millions of people, which will surely be discovered. The bigger they are, as a group, the greater chance of discovery through human error in a form of paper trails, loose lips, and careless tradecraft (not to mention, whistle blowers in their midst). Money has to be spent on recruitment, training, and deployment of cell groups in each country. They do not have the time, money, or the energy to waste by poisoning wells for that would involve even more people. And how will they find willing recruits w/out giving themselves away?

And suppose they do, that accomplishes nothing but only increases the chance of discovery by proactive law enforcement agencies.

The only way schemes on a global scale could work is that all involved are super-humans who could perfectly coordinate with each other, not make mistakes, and keep secrets. They would also have to recruit other super-humans with the same ability.

There's a big difference between a Rothschild and a manager at McDonald's. Some might say a super-big difference.

I don't buy the BS that men are born equal. They certainly don't go through life as equals. The points you've made haven't convinced me it's impossible. On the contrary; they've convinced me that it is possible, even if extremely difficult.

I may not agree with their motives, but there's no denying that people like Hillary Clinton are exceptional individuals. History remembers conquerors and killers much more than pacifists. It takes superhuman will, vision, discipline, constitution, etc. to do what they do. No doubt about it.

I could take the time to provide evidence of the happenings of each of your examples, but it's unnecessary. You already know, and so do I.

You've missed the point.... that Bible verse pertains to the mixed strengths and weaknesses of Alliance "A" but I suppose that you have not read Daniel's prophecy; not that it really mattered here as I only used a quotation to complete my point.

The missionaries always get after me for not reading the Bible's enough, now even you're calling me out ><

One possessing an iron-will to avoid sleep, for 10 days without any aid, will soon fall into, after three days. Yes, we are not born equal, but then we're all human who can make mistakes.

Let's take this further, imagine you have an alliance of nations "A" vs a coalition of "B". Imagine "A" have the same number of armored vehicles, aircraft, and ships as "B" but within the alliance have differing standards of training; some possesses conscript armies with soldiers having only three weeks of basic training opposed to others having 9 weeks; they are well-trained and highly professional soldiers. Then you have Officers leading; some are chosen because they happened to be the favorites but others were picked for their qualifications.

In addition, you have the leaders of nations; some are egotistical or impetuous as others understood the importance of good leadership.

In all, you have the proverbial "Iron mixed with Miry clay" (Daniel 2:41).

That is the dynamic with all groups staffed by human beings as you will always have those driven by ego or ambition, others barely qualified or cut corners, and still, others highly organized, duty-driven, and attentive to the minutest detail. Someone, in that group, will eventually make a costly mistake.

The bigger the group, the greater the chance of mistakes.

Iron and clay, eh? The hard and sharp mixed into the soft and malleable. What do you want to create with such a mixture?

It takes the scorching of a furnace to isolate the iron and the clay would be destroyed. Useful if you want to make a weapon or a tool.

Is this the endgame? A sacrifice of the weak to further strengthen the strong? That's some doomsday stuff.

This guy is a paid revisionist and seems like a Jewish surpremist. He hasn’t flat out said it but implies it with he’s answers. Their is soooo much documentation through out history to disprove most of what this guy claims. You Don’t need to Learn antisemitism to know something is odd this with user. Just look up pro isreali videos and lectures online to see he’s has his own agenda. Or read the book from prof Anthony Sutton best enemies money can buy to stick with what your talking about. Backed by original paper work. I really could go on with points but this guy doesn’t like me lol, I don’t like revisionists with racist overtones

And I thought I've asked you to leave? At which you've said you'll respect my wishes?

I'm not a fan of racism either. I believe that a person can be superior to others, but race has nothing to do with it.

You're right, this guy is odd. It's funny how his arguments to discredit my theory are exactly the facts I've discovered, just with a "nope can't happen" overtone. Clearly he knows what's going on.

I've read that information to discredit the theory often references antisemitism. It's very convenient to have that type of scapegoat to use whenever the facts aren't on their side. The democrats in the US do it all the time with screams of "racism". Apparently the players in the theory scream "antisemitism".

What I find even stranger is that there actually are antisemitic groups. Regardless of their intentions they only serve to justify the self defense tactic of those players.

In UniformVictors reply he mentioned that it would take millions of people to enact the scheme and that surely they would be discovered. No they wouldn't, they're everywhere and completely unaware that they are owned by the players. The Media controls their thoughts and debt controls their actions. I'd say there are far more mind controlled individuals in the US than lucid people.

It could be possible that the antisemitic groups have been put in place to divert truth seekers attention and validate a an argument that discredits the truth. People that are involved wouldn't even need to understand their purpose, except for the very top leadership.

That may be a stretch but anything is possible when it comes to these world domination people.

The only thing I don't get is the motivation. Why want to own the world?

And I said, "Thousands, if not Millions", Grind.

If you think you need only 20 people to take over the US Whitehouse then you would be right. However, keeping the entire government it is another matter entirely.

Even before the takeover, who is qualified in commando training and finding a suitable area of training where they can, without being noticed?

Who will be the planners; who are in charge of intelligence and logistics, and who will use get money to buy weapons, ammunition, and food?

Who can go and discreetly recruit without anyone alarming the authorities?

For a governmental take-over to be successful you need qualified personel who could only do one thing. A computer repairer cannot be a commando, can he? Nor a commando a secretary? They can do both when needed but neither one is particularly skilled in the areas opposite of their roles.

The bigger the scheme, the more numbers you need to properly accomplish the mission.

And BTW: I wouldn't listen to a person who committed not only Ad Hominem Circumstantial but showed a lack of intellectual honesty. If s/he didn't erase it alreadly, you'd better look at our debate at my Seagull meme.

From what I understand, you don't believe that the descendants and high tier employees of the Rothschild's, Morgan's, Rockefeller's, and other mega bankers are attempting to enact a type of world domination scheme because you think the logistics are impossible to manage. I say that is an incorrect presumption.

Lobbyists control the issues of the US government. Lobbyists are employed by numerous companies and corporations that all answer to one mega banker or another. There are less than 10 Fortune 500 companies that are not partially owned by one or more of the mega banks, just to give you an idea of the influence they have.

The takeover isn't an invasion. There aren't going to be foreign troops firing guns. It's very likely the takeover will be mostly non violent. Rather than building up a force to fight with the tactic is to weaken the society that is the target of the takeover. This can be done by dividing the country politically, culturing ignorance, having the society disarm themselves, tricking them into debt, weakening the healthcare, etc.

A possible presidential candidate for the 2020 election named Tom Steyer has been linked with funding Antifa. He is a perfect example of a mega bank "commando". He is a banker and investor whose major income is foreign fossil fuels and investments. It's in his interest to see American energy suppliers fail. Antifa has online videos of how to sabotage domestic fossil fuel suppliers. Look him up. Again, America's failure is his and the people he answers to's profit, and he's likely going to run for president.

High tier commandos do need extensive training and experience, yes. The "foot soldiers", like Antifa, don't need hardly any training. They only need indoctrination and simple tasks to carry out.

The fact is over half the country is unknowingly supporting the mega banks agenda. Every American citizen can do their part to help the mega banks destroy the country by voting for the DNC. The DNC has shown where it's allegiance lies when it tried to push the US into the TPP. The banks have 65million people in the US that are helping them. I'd say 99% don't even know what they're supporting. There are your numbers.

How was this accomplished? Guess who owns 90% of cable news media. If people hear a lie enough, they'll believe it. That's been scientifically proven.

Again, I don't see this as an antisemitic thing or a Jewish takeover. I just see banks trying to enslave the US with debt.

their was a debate? You back peddled and quoted the bible and told me to repent if I wanted to, called me aracist for a first nurtural response to you claim any real growth of unprovoked antisemitism. Just like in the same fashion you reacted to grind. You didn’t even make a real response at all regarding the point of modern geological issues and isreali nationalist moments going on could be a reason for its growth then blind hate. Who could? Any country that requires military training to its civilians. Take a look at your mannerism bc it is interesting. It’s really a sun tzu break down eh? Getting more transparent eh

One more time, please leave.

What the f**k, imgflip, I wanted to laugh, not see this bullshit.

I've made other funny memes if you wished to see it. There's a "Hey Internet", "Batman slapping Robin", and "Disaster Girl". I will make more funny memes but other than that, we are allowed to make political memes.

Okay.