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I just wonder why anyone would expect a vegan option at a meat themed restaurant? I wouldn't go to a vegan restaurant expecting a meat option. Just sayin!
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Nobody would really expect a vegan option at a meat-themed restaurant, although there may be one. If somebody's family choose to go to a meat-themed or heavily meat-themed restaurant, that vegan person may still want to go out with them and could order a special meal. The point of the graph though is to show just how many nonspecific and generic restaurants serve many default vegan options.
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Where did you obtain the data used to make this determination? Is this nation wide? State wide? City wide? Why make it if you have determined that "nobody" would really expect a meat-themed restaurant to offer a vegan option? Not trying to be rude. Just really trying to understand.
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Odds of carnvores inferring from your discussion with the waitstaff about options that you must be a pushy self-advertiser: 99%.
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Vegans are people who seek to do the least amount of damage and hurt to others. We simply question the way things are done. We're not trying to come off as pushy self-advertisers. To a vegan, discussing options with waitstaff is about not causing harm, not about self-advertising. The point of this graph is to show the amount of restaurants where you can easily just a get a delicious default vegan option without having to confer with the waitstaff or the chef and that going out to eat as a vegan is easy. Everywhere offers this type of thing nowadays. Hope this explains things.
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"Vegans are people who seek to do the least amount of damage and hurt to others."
The frequent and seemingly consistent view that meat eaters deserve to be killed or harmed in some way proves that is false.
We are a part of a food chain. And fortunate we are because of most species on this planet we have the most choice in what we eat, how often we eat, and alternatives if our choices are not available or in short supply. When certain animal populations are not kept in check it can be just as harmful for the environment as it would if they disappeared altogether. In the food chain the human animal is at the top. There are certain animals which we breed specifically for food. Other people enjoy hunting to bring home their meat.
Here is where I get irritated with vegans. The complaint seems to be that it is cruel to raise and harvest animals for human consumption, due to the conditions in which the animals are raised, and sometimes the manner in which they are slaughtered. However a hunter can go out and with a single shot, kill a deer instantly. The animal does not suffer, and is not raised under inhumane conditions. The vegan crowd will still throw their verbal stones at the hunter for having killed an animal. You cannot win. Unless you choose a vegan diet. Then they find other things to nit pick.
I don't have a problem with vegans in general. But when I have them shoving their hostility and judgement in my face, and attempt to dictate what I "should" eat or wear that is a problem. I think it would be better to live and let live. And how about instead of trying to force others into a dietary lifestyle they do not want you put your energy into a more useful approach. Which would be to push for better standards in the meat and dairy industry. If the main argument is that it is cruel the way they raise and slaughter the animals, then push for some type of legislation that will force a humane change. You can contact your state representative and actually sit down with them and have it written and presented and voted on.
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Where on earth do you get the idea meat eaters deserve to be killed or harmed? I just short my AR at the range today for fun. I almost guarantee you the other people there were not vegans. How strange, but I didn't harm a single one of them.
A hunter shooting a single deer with a head shot is almost certainly better than what 95% of cattle go through in a slaughterhouse, and pigs are often scalded still alive and much more you never hear about, but participate in. But obviously you know little about hunting - very few shots are instant kills, most of them run off for minutes in agony and terror - even assuming a killshot instead of a wounding - for even longer than in slaughterhouses. And I guess you know nothing of bowhunting either.
I don't shove hostility and judgment in others faces - although you should see meat eaters freak out when they find out I'm vegan. But every argument you made there can - and historically was - made for slavery too: if you don't like slavery, don't own one, or don't ban it, make it better, or just write your congressman, etc.
Eventually - slowly - we morally evolved out of that. Eventually - slowly - we will out of this too.
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"Where on earth do you get the idea meat eaters deserve to be killed or harmed?"

Have you not been paying attention? There has been a growing trend of vegans voicing this desire to actually kill meat eaters. I wish I was joking. as I continue reading your comment I realize you most certainly either did not pay attention to what I actually said, or you are just arguing for the sake of it. Please read my comment again. I am not going to argue with someone when we seem to agree on these points.
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You specifically called it "The frequent and seemingly consistent view." I have attended a regular vegan potluck for some years with up to 50+ people sometimes, which is to say I know WAY more vegans than you do, and have NEVER ONCE heard anyone say anything even CLOSE to that. Not even once.

So obviously the problem is not that this is a "frequent" or "seemingly consistent" view at all, but that you are allowing yourself to be a victim of image manipulation and fabrication.

I have occasionally been the target of open hostility by meat eaters - but unlike you, I have not allowed it to tarnish my realism regarding the statistics.

Anyone making an argument - political, ethical, religious, etc. - is without exception tempted to exaggerate the groundedness of the other "side" in order to lend greater credibility to his/her own.

I recommend you not fall into the trap.
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I base what I am saying off of MY personal experience, as are you. It is possible for us to have differing experiences. Though you may argue to the contrary.
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