Gun Control

Elimination by taxation. Or... make it so difficult people give up. We don’t need more gun control. We need accountability for the people who don’t want to hurt feelings.

Hillary said it was on the table, but what would she know?

Diane Feinstein said if she could have gotten votes to implement one - the people and Constitution be damned - she would have. But what would she know?

Both more than the average bear, apparently.

The threat is real, irrespective of its denials. And we the people are not fooled.

The gun control conversation does not necessarily equate to dismantling the 2nd amendment. Many topics such as mental health, age limits, easy access, private seller loop holes, and gun owner responsibility are part of the discussion. But many people reconstruct gun control into something which it isn't- a gun ban.

I used to believe that. And then I opened my eyes. It's a bunch of bull to perfume up the stench of the trojan horse.

The top-level people have admitted - in the open, repeatedly - that the REAL intention is full disarmament.

When people tell you who they are, believe them.

And do you believe ALL gun advocates? Do you believe that they have your best interest in heart? Or do they have their's? Perhaps they want you to be afraid so that you'll fill their pockets. Of course there are people at the top that want complete disarmament... but not all of them.

I became a gun "advocate" - meaning I finally understood the wisdom of our system - a decade or two ag. I have our best interest at heart, so in a manner of speaking, it's really me you're questioning, and I happen to know first hand you are wrong. I researched the entities I used to support and found for myself what liars they were, so I am in fact capable of questioning my beliefs and changing them in the face of the evidence. And it's rare for the "top" people to even let slip their real aims, but I not only know they were - unusually - telling the truth, I also understand it's like mice: if you see one, there are ten in your walls.

It's really much easier than you make it if you are first willing to be honest with yourself.

"The wisdom of our system." We have the highest firearm mortality rate among our peers such as Australia, countries in Western and Northern Europe, Japan, Israel, Singapore, South Korea, etc. You want evidence to change your beliefs? First, it's not necessarily about beliefs, but check out the stats from CDC or the UNODC about firearm mortality rates.

Selective statistics. Of course we have the highest firearms rate, because we have more of them. That does not mean we have the highest violent crimes rate. Ours is in fact lower.

Your argument fails.

How does it fail? Whether it be violence, suicide, or accidental death, the statistics show that we have a problem with easy access to guns in this culture. Yes, violence is lower than it was in the 90's but it doesn't excuse what's happening.

And this was conveniently provided by somebody today :-)

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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm

You speak for yourself, not me.

School shootings so far in 2018. Check it out. America does have a gun problem, and more guns are not helping. https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/school-shootings-2018-list-trnd/index.html

And answer me this: how will more guns help prevent school shootings? More armed guards? What happens when the school shooter wises up and decides not to invade campus, but waits until school is out? At that point the shooter has easy targets consisting of crowded parking lots, school buses, etc. Are you going to be there to stop them? Please....

Memes are intended to help you think outside your assumptions box. I did once; you can too.

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No they aren't. They simply make a point.

Common sense. If a teacher can respond quickly, disincentivized. There's a reason mass shootings happen in "gun free zones." And yes, I actually am in situations where I could stop incidents. I don't scream "help, somebody call 911" like a p*ssy. I could argue if you were responsible, you might too.

Shootings happen in gun zones as well. If you are in situations to stop shootings, then by all means, go ahead. There's been situations where even armed police officers have died. Good luck.

Are you a teacher? I know plenty of teachers. None of them like the idea of being armed. I know because I bothered to ask them.

The profession is in my family, and I know teachers too, and with maybe one exception, they know they're an immediate response - instead of a 20-45 minute one.

And yes, perhaps unlike you, if I had to put my life on the line in defense of others, I think I could. Enjoy being the helpless victim.

This woman came around and changed her mind:

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Unlike me? Speak for yourself not me. You don't know me. That's great you think you can defend others. Congratulations, you think you're brave just like everyone else. Go get em John Wayne

I said PERHAPS unlike you - because YOU taunted me for being willing to defend others. Point refuted.

"Go get em John Wayne." Typical libtard stereotype idiocy. That's why I'm not one any more.

You're taunting me as having "libtard stereotype idiocy." And "perhaps" being unwilling to defend others. Point refuted.