Evolution is the biggest fraud of our time

#godforthewin

I'm agnostic. Despite evidence from both sides, there's no way to possibly know with 100% certainty whether or not God really exists, or which religion is correct if so. There are still so many things we don't know about the universe and the world around us, so many holes we need to fill... I guess we'll only know the truth, whatever it may be, when we take our last breaths.

...also the theory of evolution is just that, a theory. And a nieve one at that. Unless there has been some sort of discovery in the last 24 hours, that I've not heard yet, there is no evidence of interspieces evolution. None. Zip. Zilch. But perhsps I missed something. If you do have such evidence, can you please post it. Would love to see your evidence of interspieces evolution (as would the liberal scientific community who are desperately looking for this evidence).

You seem to be under the false impression that evolutionary theory implies that there comes a point when a member of one species gives birth to a member of a new separate species. In reality, this violates every law of evolutionary theory and population genetics. Evolution really functions more in terms of continua. It's like how there's no exact point in history where you can say Latin stopped being Latin and became Italian.

With all due respect, your illustration (i.e. Latin / Italian) is a poor one as it involves the same species i.e. humans. I totally accept that species have the ability to adapt to their context within their species as there is ample evidence for this (e.g. your Latin /
Italian reference is sort of an example of this concept). However, evolutionary theory asserts that the human species evolved from the ape species, i.e. a totally different species. While many DNA similarities exist, they are two completely different species. No matter how you cut the cake, evolutionary theory postulates that it is possible for one species to evolve into another, via 'continua'. How so many people can believe in a 'theory' that has no scientific empirical evidence to back its claims is a total mystery to me. I guess if people start from a position of just wanting to defend their position, they just can't / won't accept the truth.

My analogy is not biological. Latin and Italian are separate languages, yet one evolved from the other. If the difference is not big enough for you, then use Italian and Proto-Italic, or Proto-Indo-European. The point is to illustrate evolutionary continua.

Additionally, humans are still apes, even paraphyletically speaking. And when you say "many DNA similarities," remember that, with chimps for example, we're talking a 95%< identical DNA kind of similarity. Also, apes aren't a species, what you are referring to as apes comprise more than one genus. Indeed, chimps are more closely related to humans than to gorillas, gorillas are more closely related to humans than to orangutans, and orangutans are more closely related to humans than to gibbons, etc... As for evolutionary continua, such continua actually exist in nature, and macroevolution has in fact been observed on many occasions. But that's only on the species level; evolution doesn't give you big jumps such as between humans and other comparable modern anthropoids within a matter of mere centuries.

Your illustration doesn't advance or explain interspecies evolutionary continua at all. It just tries to explain what I already know and accept: that adaptions within species do occur.

And at what point do you consider a compilation of adaptations to be "interspecies?"

E.g. When a baboon, or ape, or monkey etc is proved to be an evolutionary link (continua) for modern man. When a cat evolves into a dog. When a fish evolves into a bird. Or vice versa in a every case.

Let's put it this way... do you consider domesticated cats to be a different species from African and European wildcats, or are their differences just "adaptations?"

Let's stick with the original thought of the meme, that of people using evolution to explain away the existence of God by saying we evolved from another species (the meme refers to God and the title says "Evolution is the biggest fraud of our time"). No doubt a reference to man not being created in the image of God but instead, evolving from another species. Do you believe that modern man evolved from an ape, or monkey, or baboon or other such animal?

Yes, but it's easier to explain in terms of example, so if you don't mind, I'd like to humbly repeat the question.

I really like the example I've chosen please: man and monkey.

I'm sure you've seen the "missing links" and morphological record of humans before and been unconvinced, which is why I chose an example that's easier to explain.

I apologize, my notifications say you replied, but no message showed up.

there's s big difference between consistency with the idea of god and consistency with the Christian bible, giz. and yes, there's tons of evidence for interspecies evolution in the large number of shared genes and the high degree of shared amino acid sequence in those genes between humans and other mammals. you can start by Googling 'trypsin homology human cow pig sheep' or 'insulin homology human cow pig sheep'. so don't believe everything you hear.

Thanks for rhe reply but you've not provided any evidence where one species becomes another. Don't feel bad though, it's not your fault. You couldn't find any evidence because there is none. Your error is in believing that shared genes = evolution. Google 'The Way of the Master' and check out some of the site's apologetic work. Keep an open mind my friend. You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.

it already does, giz. i wish i knew how to help you. ( :

Sounds to me like you've got a bad case of "closed mind". Very predictable liberal response. Assume you didn't take the time to investigate the resourse I cited above?? If you're not willing to investigate the claims of an opposing view you should probably stay out of the debate until you're better informed. Just sayin' :)

scientists (i'm a scientist) don't claim to know the truth. that's open-minded, giz. you are claiming to know the truth. who's the liberal, hm? ( :

You didn't answer my first question or my second question, you're on fire lol. That's another liberal tactic, i.e. can't or don't want to answer the question so take a side route in the debate. Just above you said you're not claiming to know the truth but earlier in the thread you claim that there is 'tons of evidence for interspecies evolution". Which one is it? Do you know truth or not? Are you telling the truth or a lie? As for me I don't claim to know ALL truth.There are many things I am still learning. But on this topic, yes, I know the truth. And until I see evidence to the contrary (which you've not provided) it stays that way. It should be everyone's great aim in life to know the truth and to not be deceived. If you haven't bothered to at least have a look at the site I suggested, you are not really interested in finding truth, you're just focussed on defending a position that has no conclusive scientific empirical evidence.

Haha, i did do my own research, im not a liberal sheep

Yeah but theistic evolution does not match the God of the Bible