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The New (not quite so) Progressive Party. | THE GRAPE PARTY. SYMBOL OF THE NEW PROGRESSIVE. WE MAY LACK IDEA'S, BUT WE MAKE UP FOR IT IN WHITE WHINE. | image tagged in democrats,antifa,progressives,protesters,college liberal | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
405 views 4 upvotes Made by Dustyone 7 years ago in fun
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3 ups, 7y,
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Stating progressives lack ideas is a contradiction, since embracing new ideas is what they are about. Or do you not know what conservatives are conserving? (HINT: Old stuff, and keeping them unchanged. New ideas are what they oppose)
0 ups, 7y,
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THEY LACK IDEAS THAT ACTUALLY WORK IF MORE PEOPLE WOULD "CONSERVE" AGAINST SOCIALISM THAT WOULD BE GREAT ALL OF THEIR IDEAS "PROGRESS" TOWAR | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
2 ups, 7y,
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One Does Not Simply Meme | ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY CLIMB DOWN FROM THE TREES AND EVOLVE PROCEED TO ESTABLISH A MODERN REPUBLIC AND CALL THAT SOCIALISM | image tagged in memes,one does not simply | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
You are correct tho. Those progressive ideas that founded these United States of America got us into this quagmire where the backwards thinking uneducated masses are foaming at the mouth in order to establish a national socialist system akin to the one that worked so well for the Third Reich. Kudos.
0 ups, 7y,
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I refuse to choose between being in the Fourth Reich or the United Socialists States of America.
The "progressives" in the media call these people "patriots." These people are calling themselves communists and hold to socialist/communist ideology and have people who think the same all over the country.
The only thing that separates National Socialists from Communists is that Nazis separated and murdered people based on race while Commies separated and murdered people based on class. Both are evil and both suck and both stem from the same root ideology.
If people continue to refuse to call both ideologies out for what they are people will be subject to one or the other.
In your mind why is National Socialism worse than Communism?
2 ups, 7y,
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At James. Why does it have to be either or? I see more freedom of speech and freedom of expression-not less, (no matter the platform), as the highest form of freedom. Let both sides express to their hearts desire and then stand back and may the best ideology win in the arena of idea's.
0 ups, 7y,
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I'm not postulating a false dilemma where we have choose one or the other. That is the narrative that is being set up in the media and believed by people like this jack_henoff person. Their narrative is that if you don't totally disavow Nazis, white supremacists, or alt-right segregationists then you must support their ideology.
While at the same time they won't disavow the antifa communists, and think that when someone does disavow or denounce the racists then they must agree with the "peaceful opposition" to the racists.
I agree that freedom of speech/expression is the best. So let both ideologies express themselves (as long as they are not doing it with violence) and normal people will see that both ideologies are garbage and not good for any society. Neither should "win in the arena of ideas" because both lead to totalitarianism and death. I suggest for people like jack to do a little research into the amount of death and suffering wrought by totalitarian communists vs. the National Socialists (Nazis). Both ideologies are garbage controlled by garbage human beings but what the Nazis did pales in comparison to the evil and suffering of communist regimes just in shear numbers. Look into professor Jordan B. Peterson's lectures on totalitarianism.
0 ups, 7y
No, don't do that, don't put your stupid lies in my mouth.
I said no such thing, YOU DID.

I didn't even mention anything remotely connected to Antifa (let alone defend them), unless you're going to claim my defining "progress" fits your silly narrative.

I did, however, criticize Nazism. Something about WWII and genocide? Or is that chunk of history fake news too now?

I get it, you're just another backwater racist f**ktard looking for something to attach your lack of esteem to in a sad bid to develop one. But in case you haven't noticed, "clowns and losers," as Bannon said, will always be clowns and and losers no matter whose anus you have shoved your head in.

And for the record, Communism was kind of a rancid deal, hence why it collapsed in the USSR? Stalin & Co killed a few people or so back in the day? You might want to look that up? And once you do, can you advise your Lord and Savior Trump to be someone else's buttboy? Putin ain't cute.
2 ups, 7y,
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Why are Nazis worse than Commies? Pass me some of what you are smoking, pal.

And btw, It's Trump who is a Commie stoog, or is your perception of reality this far removed?
Not Obama.
Not Leftos.
But Trump, you know, the fella being investigated for it?
2 ups, 7y
stooge*
0 ups, 7y,
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2 ups, 7y,
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You say anything more than that ever?
0 ups, 7y,
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It applies. You deflect and use red herrings so that you don't have to answer questions. You say the leftists are not communists but I just showed you their own tweet wherein they call themselves communists!
0 ups, 7y,
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1. You're the one avoiding questions, although that was amply (and stupidly) answered when you wondered how can Nazis be worse that Commies.
2. I saw no such tweet.
3. With Prez Twitter Tears at the helm, least thing sheeple should learn is that one idiot's tweets is another moron's stupidity only if they choose it to be so.
Appeal to authority mean anything to ya?

Back to #1 now that fallacies are now being brought up, we had this convo already last month regarding your reliance on mentioning logic fallacies defelection and red herrings in place of referring to any facts. You say absolutely nothing as always except chanting those two mantras of yours. Remember the other fallacy I added? Ad hominem? As in you are an ignorant bigoted idiot?

Go to your master's master's home in Russia and see what that former apparatchik KGB and now dictator of Russia consider left wing (voting, free press, and individual liberty). Communism is the traditionalist right's conservatism over there. AND YOU KNOW IT.

Now shush, your stupidity bores me.
0 ups, 7y
deflection*
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THE GRAPE PARTY. SYMBOL OF THE NEW PROGRESSIVE. WE MAY LACK IDEA'S, BUT WE MAKE UP FOR IT IN WHITE WHINE.