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This is sad. | YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT 6 MILLION JEWS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST AND EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT; BUT 100+ MIL. NATIVE AMERICANS DIED WHEN THE US GOVERNMENT CAME AND TOOK OVER HTEIR LANDAND THAT'S NOT IN OUR TEXTBOOKS? | image tagged in third world skeptical kid,holocaust,native american | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 8y,
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It's supposed to say But 100+mil. Native Americans died when the US government came and took over *their* *land and* that's not in our textbooks?
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2 ups, 8y,
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Clarification: the 100 Million + figure includes both North and South America and dates back to 1492. By the end of the 16th century, the number of native peoples killed on both continents numbered around 60 million. The US didn't become a country until two centuries later.

I'm not justifying it, and certainly not denying it. But the history books are lacking in several areas.

Methods used? Outright slaughter, not just in Battle but upon native home sites where they lived. Disease was another killer, as I understand. Intentional or not, it has to figured in.

While not actual genocide, native populations were also reduced by breeding slaves. An analysis of the genetic material of the Hispanic population will track their DNA signatures back to Spain, Africa, as well as the Aztec, Mayan, Inca, and other tribes. In the Caribbean, you can add in the Irish as well.

With the exception of slave breeding, the Americans used these methods and one more onerous trick: starvation. Besides the Indian agents failing to provide goods that the treaties promised, the native food supplies were decimated for sport. Don't know if they teach this to kids today, but I recall learning about "sportsmen" that would have a train stop so they could have target practice on herds of bison. They left the carcasses in the sun to rot while natives starved.

Good start on teaching a little history. Anyone that wants to learn more, Google Native American Genocide.

Hope this helps.
2 ups, 8y,
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Yeah, it's sad that the majority of history has been written by the white male. It's always their perspective. Have you read "The People's History of the United States?"
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2 ups, 8y,
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I've heard of the book, but not gotten around to reading it. Life gets in the way.

FYI, I'm an old white male. ;-) I upset a lot of my peers because I still ask uncomfortable questions and worse, make uncomfortable statements that bother them because they know the answers.

You're correct, though, about history being biased. There's an old saying that the history of battle is written by the victors.

What can I say about the NA peoples? I carry none of their blood in my veins, but 1/2 of my grandkids do, as do a number of nieces and nephews. I understand I have many distant cousins as well, thanks to the caring of a tribe along the Mississippi in the 1800s. Grandpa had an uncle that was on a steamboat when it exploded. The tribe rescued as many as they could, including that uncle. After nursing him back to health, he would up marrying into the tribe.
2 ups, 8y,
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Wow. Cool story, I hope I didn't offend you. I meant like the biased white male from 200 years ago. You seem like a nice guy.
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2 ups, 8y,
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No offense taken. The biased white male still exists, and likely will for another century or two. One reason why the mixing of races doesn't bother me
2 ups, 8y,
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Yeah. Just wanted to make sure
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2 ups, 8y
That's why I put the smiley there after I said it.

The problem today is we need to learn from the mistakes of history and not to perpetuate them. The powerful ignore the plight they bring upon their
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2 ups, 8y,
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Sorry, hit post by accident. The powerful ignore the plight they bring upon their fellow man. The slow witted follow through to support those in power. I see this being the problem in the rest of this century. No society is perfect. Instead of building one that heads that direction, we have become a punitive one.
2 ups, 8y,
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Are you, like, a history teacher? You're one of the most well-spoken people on the Internet. And one of the kindest. But I have a question: If you were to remake the meme, what would it say?
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2 ups, 8y
Here's something a friend just shared. I didn't hear it this morning because I was catching up on my sleep.

http://www.npr.org/2017/04/17/523964584/in-the-1920s-a-community-conspired-to-kill-native-americans-for-their-oil-money?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=morningedition&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170417

I thought you might be interested.
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2 ups, 8y,
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No, I'm not a history teacher. I studied journalism in high school before I quit. I have a terrible disease called curiosity. Thank you for the compliment

Most important is the proof reading.

The key, especially in a good socio-political meme is not to make it a question, but an outright statement. In the title. I'd mention that the number of native Americans slaughtered by European settlers was over 100 million, and let it stand.

Open end questions lead to trolls answering without using facts. Statements will do the same, but that puts you on better footing to reply by using your facts, and be sure to include sources. Never lose your temper with the trolls, either. They'll try to get you angry and upset. If you get angry, they've got you. And you'll get them. Let them get angry and resort to personal attacks. That makes it so much easier to click on the flag button. Using that form is how I have become so well spoken. ;-) if you are angry at a comment, step away, find your center, and ask yourself why you are angry. Look at the troll message and you'll see that they try to change the topic to something they can argue. Ignore that change and stay focused on the initial topic. They can't deal with that. Only reason I bring up the trolls is because they are around. A lot are active recently because of the Dakota pipeline project. Yes, you'll eben deal with laid trolls.
2 ups, 8y
Good meme
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0 ups, 4y
People when 2.3 million Greeks/Assyrians/Armenians died in the Armenian genocide:
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