http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/41671-focus-torture-is-a-monster-and-a-terrorist-lover
By John Kiriakou, Reader Supported News
30 January 17
ithin hours of the leak (by a whistleblower) of a National Security Council draft Executive Order calling for the reinstatement of the illegal Bush-era CIA torture program, I was invited to participate in a roundtable discussion about torture on Irish Public Radio. The other guests were an American living in London who claimed to have been a CIA counterterrorism officer during the Bush administration (I was a CIA counterterrorism officer at the same time this guy purported to be, and I had never heard of him) and a woman from New Jersey whose husband had been killed in the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. It felt like a set-up from the interview’s very first question.
That first question was, “Do torture techniques like waterboarding work?” I was dying to jump in immediately, but I wasn’t called, and my microphone was off. The other CIA officer, “Mike,” said that yes, waterboarding works, it’s a proven method, it saved American lives, it disrupted attacks, blah, blah, blah. Then the widow was asked. She went on a long soliloquy, talking about what it meant to lose a husband in a terrorist attack, and saying that her children had been left fatherless and the family nearly lost their home. She finished by saying, “I don’t see how sprinkling a little water on their faces is torture. It’s just water. What about my husband? Wasn’t it a form of torture to murder him in the World Trade Center?”
With all due respect to this woman and her family, their loss was irrelevant to the debate. The question of whether or not torture works also was irrelevant, and I said so.
Lots of things “work,” I said. Raping and sodomizing prisoners “works.” We don’t do that. (At least we’re not supposed to. This and other horrors were carried out by military officers and enlisted personnel at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq in the last decade.) Raping prisoners’ wives works. We don’t do that. Beating and torturing their children in front of them works. We don’t do that either. The issue isn’t whether something works. The issue is whether what we’re doing is moral, ethical, and legal. Torture is not. Torture is an abomination. I was called a “monster” and a “terrorist lover.”