Yeah he's a crook. There are reports that it was actually Ryan and Mitt Romney along with other establishment Republicans who released the audio in an attempt to sabotage Trump. F**k the establishment, both the Dems AND the GOP.
Not being a politician , its not to climb a ladder with the rest of them. It is apparent to me He sees a big problem with our nation and he wants to help the only way he knows how...RUN THE DAMN SHOW HIMSELF ! He strives for success not by underhanded dealings, but by building more and more . He was asked once why he was running...he said "To Give Back to a Country that gave him so much opportunity" !
As for "the media" telling me anything... they were so in the tank for Trump before the nomination that it was clear they wanted him so they could trash him afterwards. Which is another reason he should never have been the candidate. Once Cruz dropped out, I stopped watching all news, debates, press conferences, rallies, etc... no reason. The GOP had its Obama (all brash image, no character) and it was clear he'd lose to Hillary way back then in May.
No, I'm a conservative and a Christian. I think for myself thank you very much.
The media has been attacking Trump since the beginning, as have both sides. The polls saying Hillary is winning are propaganda. Trump is filling up arenas for his rallies, Hillary can barely get a hundred people. The only way she'll win is if they manage to rig the election.
Cruz supports Trump. Why not support him? Hillary is a threat not only to the unborn, but to the whole world.
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You sound like my brother. The Media, especially FoxNews was pandering to Trump throughout the primary season. Only after he was the sole contender did the liberal media abandon him to prop Hillary (from the very very little I've seen). I refuse to watch FoxNews again after their sucking up to Trump and letting his countless false claims and accusations stand (most against Cruz and his fellow candidates)
Cruz was to be my write-in vote but is no longer for two reasons.
1. He backed Trump and turned his back on conservatism and this country (his convention speech was PERFECT and he should have just stuck with that position). He was in compliance with his support pledge by not endorsing him so no endorsement was needed. He must have been promised something to have him betray his principles such...
2. I learned that write-in candidates have to be pre-approved, you cannot just draft someone. And they cannot have run in the primary beforehand, so writing in Cruz would be a wasted vote. Fortunately I've found a candidate who does love this country and its laws and can vote for him and not waste my vote.
As for Hillary and the Supreme Court... 40 years ago we got Roe V. Wade. I'm not sure how much more heinous the SC could get under Hillary than to sanction the murder of children. As for Trump and abortion... his record is pro-choice. His record he's not a Christian. Yet he claims to be pro-life and a Christian but there is NO EVIDENCE of that at all.
People are putting hope that the Lord will change him... but He could change Hillary too, since on a personal level they are equally bankrupt morally. I pray they both change. I pray Obama changes. I'd love to see them in Heaven one day. But until they reach the end of themselves, they won't trust anyone but themselves.
There is no way I could vote for Trump or Hillary without demonstrable change in their character, temperament and personality.
Plus he has a good rapport with countries all around the world already from the business world.
Hillary is bought by the big banks and wallstreet AND foreign governments like Saudi Arabia. Trump can't be bought and that's why the establishment fears him.
In addition, he doesn't seem a type of guy that is open for other peoples opinions or ideas. Actually it is opposite. He can run so many businesses by being the Hippo and decide. By the way, his reputation in other countries is not so great as you think. Just google Trump golf resort in Scotland. Just an example of his way of 'managing' and dealing with local authorities. Power currupts, also for Trump, also for established politicians like Clinton.
He attacks people who attack him. It is what it is. It's OBVIOUS that he's a people person and can handle manage people well due to his success. Saying he "offends nearly everyone he encounters" is simply not true.
"Fortunately I've found a candidate who does love this country and its laws and can vote for him and not waste my vote."
If you're voting for anyone besides Trump, you ARE wasting your vote. If you want to say a vote that you're comfortable with then fine, but it is a wasted vote because Trump is the only one who can beat Hillary. Your claim that Trump being establishment is just not true. If Trump is establishment, why does the media attack him? Have you read any wikileaks emails? It's been proven that Hillary stole the nom from Bernie Sanders and it's been proven that there is collusion between the media and Hillary.
Cruz hasn't betrayed anyone. Trump is pro-life, pro-second amendment. Hillary wants to kill babies and ban guns.
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Incorrect. He attacked Cruz repeatedly starting in Iowa with lies of "lyin Ted" and all that other insulting nonsense. That was not politics as usual it was mean-spirited lying bullying. He's a bully and abominable in character as he's demonstrated time and time again.
No, voting your conscience is NOT a wasted vote. That nonsense starts with the assumption that my vote is the parties to begin with and I'm not doing my duty casting it for them. Wrong. That's not how this country was founded. The way it works is one candidate's must have more support than the other candidate. In choose Trump after it was evident he was (and is) unfit for the office, the GOP electorate decided to take their shot at Hillary with a proven weak candidate.
The problem is that more of the left who hate Hillary can hold their nose and vote for her. Those on the right like me with a moral conscience cannot do the same for Trump -- he's just that bad. Had we only had 4-5 candidates at the beginning, then Cruz would be the nominee and we'd be on the way to the White House... but nope... 17 in the race allowed Trump's minority of votes in most states to get him the nomination. They should correct that process so you have to get 50%+1 vote to win a state in the primary -- let the top two have a runoff three weeks later. But they (the GOP) didn't expect a knucklehead like Trump to be able to play the system and get the nomination until it was too late for the party and America.
So no, I will do as the Founding Fathers intended and vote FOR someone, not against another. The boogeyman of Hillary being setup is not enough for me to forsake my duty as a Christian and conservative and find a worthy candidate. If the rest of the GOP wants to jump off a cliff, I certainly don't have to follow.
And finally Cruz has betrayed his supporters. And you have nothing to base you claim of Trump being pro-life on. At all. His past record is 100% pro-choice. He's only pandering to get the vote of the right. If he truly changed and ran again in 8-12 years with a demonstrated change of heart and record, then fine, but for now his record and his current (not 11-year-old) behavior makes him unfit for the office of president and unworthy of my vote.
"No, voting your conscience is NOT a wasted vote."
That's why I said, "If you want to say a vote that you're comfortable with then fine". If your vote isn't for Trump, it is by definition wasted as no one besides Trump has a chance. If you don't want to vote FOR Trump, then that's your problem. I'm not just voting against Hillary, I'm voting FOR Trump because I believe in him, like millions of other Americans who are filling up arenas at his rallies.
Are you not aware of Pence's devout christianity? True patriots are supporting Trump. Christians are supporting Trump. I think you have a "holier than thou" attitude but it's your choice. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Hillary is truly evil. If Hillary wins and starts nuclear war, I think you'll regret not supporting Trump.
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You just said God could use an evil person like Trump. He can use an evil person like Hillary too.
Never said Trump was evil. In the bible he used people to HELP others, Hillary is evil and would use her power for evil.
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"Agreed. There were times in the Bible when God would use people to help others, pagans even. Trump can be that person, whatever good forces there are in this universe could be using him because of his power and wealth on earth to stop a world war 3. Who knows"
Then you agree He could be using Hillary to the same ends. Otherwise you claim to speak for God.
Quote: "There were times in the Bible when God would use people to help others, pagans even."
Trump and Hillary are both pagans. God can use them to HELP people or to bring judgement. His call. I trust Him unlike the many Christians who think it's up to them to decide Trump is the "godly" candidate. Sad really.
Anyway, enough said. Your die is cast and that's fine. You should vote how you see fit and be mature enough not to criticize others for doing the same.
??? I never said Trump was evil lol. A pagan in the bible could simply be someone who is a non-believer.
"I trust Him unlike the many Christians who think it's up to them to decide Trump is the "godly" candidate. Sad really."
Yep, definite holier than thou attitude. Anyone with a brain can tell that Hillary is corrupt and evil. What's sad is your inability to accept Trump.
"You should vote how you see fit and be mature enough not to criticize others for doing the same."
Likewise. Who started an argument on whose meme here? Oh that's right, you.
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Actually all votes for the loser candidates and all votes for the winner above what they need to win are "wasted votes" by definition. Voting your conscience is not wasted, but the way it's supposed to be.
I'm glad you support Trump. You should vote for him then. Those who support Hillary should vote for her. Those who support other candidates should vote for them. That's how the American system is supposed to work. The two-parties have gamed the system to this crap choice we have now and brainwashed people like you into the "wasted vote" mythology.
I know I was like you before in 2008.
I do know the Pence is a Christian. Yay! But I'm not voting for the second in command, but the first. The VP doesn't represent this country as the "first family", the president does and that person should have good moral character and integrity which Trump has shown in 2016 alone that he does not have.
But Pence is also had his judgement tainted by supporting Trump by being his VP. So while he's a good man I'm sure, his discernment is definitely off.
as for "holier than thou", you can call it what you like. I have to stand before God and give account of my vote. As a Christian, I know that your vote and my vote don't matter -- God will decide who He wants to be President. He raises up the rulers. We should definitely vote, but we should (as Christians at least) should cast a vote we'd not be ashamed of before God. We're going to get a bad leader in either Trump or Hillary. This country is being judged with eight years of Obama and now one of two horrible choices in November. But while I know He will decide which leader we're punished with, I also know that I will honor Him by voting for a candidate who I feel is of proper character and temperament to lead and represent this country.
Everyone should vote their conscience.
No one should tell other how to vote.
Agreed. There were times in the Bible when God would use people to help others, pagans even. Trump can be that person, whatever good forces there are in this universe could be using him because of his power and wealth on earth to stop a world war 3. Who knows. I think the founding fathers would want us to vote for him. Just my opinion though.
I have given proof which you said was disproven with no proof to prove that. He is exposing Hillary as a globalist to get his globalist ranking up obviously imgflip.com/i/1civjd
Witnesses aren't proof. How many witnesses? There is NO PROOF. OMG the Clintons aren't BUSINESSMEN. What can you not understand about that? Trump is ALLOWED to do business because he's a BUSINESSMAN. The Clintons are POLITICIANS.
Just give it up kid, you've got no proof of anything.
The Clinton's are business men too they are allowed to do business also. Witnesses are proof you know that your just having fun with me not to mention the links and trumps own wordsimgflip.com/i/1cilvd
I'm tarded just right you know that your just having fun with me. So where does it say politicians can't do business and slick willy hasn't been a politician since 01 so there's that. Also since trump was nominated a candidate that made him a politician shouldn't he also stop doing business under you're theory. As for the case against him has been denied for minor clerical eras etc. this is the fourth filing I assume because of trumps globalist ties in New York corrupting judicial process
Yes I have you beautiful creature all you've done is say my proof has been disproven with no proof to back it up ,say that three times fast! Its also hard to prove with all his globalist ties trump has corrupting our system and using our media to brainwashing people
You gave me a link of a **pe case. Has he been convicted? No. You provided no proof that he was globalist whatsoever. You refuted the wikileaks evidence. Find me ONE wikileaks email that names Trump as a collaborator.
Not being in wikileaks proves nothing ,no conviction but rolls with registered sex offender and witnesses put him at said underage sex parties. Does business with same country men Clinton foundation does. Can all be found with simple Google search from multiple outlets.
HE DOES BUSINESS WITH EVERY COUNTRY. Being friends with Epstein over 20 years ago doesn't prove anything. Do you have any pics of Trump on the island? Again, YOU HAVE NO PROOF!
Witnesses put him are what proof is made of so making millions with Saudi government doesn't bring his loyalties into question like the Clinton's http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211
A true believer of democracy can never state that a vote is lost. With this statement democracy is undermined. That people prefer somebody else does not make them useless in the democratic process. It is their go***mn right to choose who they want to. That does not make them worse or better than anybody else.
"It is their go***mn right to choose who they want to."
Then why are both of you here arguing with me about MY choice of vote?
If you think a vote for someone like Gary Johnson means anything, you're delusional. And democracy has already been compromised. Hillary stole the nomination from Bernie Sanders.
You're right. Point is that calling somebody an idiot, wasting a vote, when they follow another path is not good. A politician that lost an election will never say that the people who did not vote on him, her, are dumb asses.
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No, I'm a conservative and a Christian. I think for myself thank you very much.
Cruz supports Trump. Why not support him? Hillary is a threat not only to the unborn, but to the whole world.
Cruz was to be my write-in vote but is no longer for two reasons.
1. He backed Trump and turned his back on conservatism and this country (his convention speech was PERFECT and he should have just stuck with that position). He was in compliance with his support pledge by not endorsing him so no endorsement was needed. He must have been promised something to have him betray his principles such...
2. I learned that write-in candidates have to be pre-approved, you cannot just draft someone. And they cannot have run in the primary beforehand, so writing in Cruz would be a wasted vote. Fortunately I've found a candidate who does love this country and its laws and can vote for him and not waste my vote.
As for Hillary and the Supreme Court... 40 years ago we got Roe V. Wade. I'm not sure how much more heinous the SC could get under Hillary than to sanction the murder of children. As for Trump and abortion... his record is pro-choice. His record he's not a Christian. Yet he claims to be pro-life and a Christian but there is NO EVIDENCE of that at all.
People are putting hope that the Lord will change him... but He could change Hillary too, since on a personal level they are equally bankrupt morally. I pray they both change. I pray Obama changes. I'd love to see them in Heaven one day. But until they reach the end of themselves, they won't trust anyone but themselves.
There is no way I could vote for Trump or Hillary without demonstrable change in their character, temperament and personality.
Hillary is bought by the big banks and wallstreet AND foreign governments like Saudi Arabia. Trump can't be bought and that's why the establishment fears him.
#NeverTrump
#NeverHillary
"Fortunately I've found a candidate who does love this country and its laws and can vote for him and not waste my vote."
If you're voting for anyone besides Trump, you ARE wasting your vote. If you want to say a vote that you're comfortable with then fine, but it is a wasted vote because Trump is the only one who can beat Hillary. Your claim that Trump being establishment is just not true. If Trump is establishment, why does the media attack him? Have you read any wikileaks emails? It's been proven that Hillary stole the nom from Bernie Sanders and it's been proven that there is collusion between the media and Hillary.
Cruz hasn't betrayed anyone. Trump is pro-life, pro-second amendment. Hillary wants to kill babies and ban guns.
No, voting your conscience is NOT a wasted vote. That nonsense starts with the assumption that my vote is the parties to begin with and I'm not doing my duty casting it for them. Wrong. That's not how this country was founded. The way it works is one candidate's must have more support than the other candidate. In choose Trump after it was evident he was (and is) unfit for the office, the GOP electorate decided to take their shot at Hillary with a proven weak candidate.
The problem is that more of the left who hate Hillary can hold their nose and vote for her. Those on the right like me with a moral conscience cannot do the same for Trump -- he's just that bad. Had we only had 4-5 candidates at the beginning, then Cruz would be the nominee and we'd be on the way to the White House... but nope... 17 in the race allowed Trump's minority of votes in most states to get him the nomination. They should correct that process so you have to get 50%+1 vote to win a state in the primary -- let the top two have a runoff three weeks later. But they (the GOP) didn't expect a knucklehead like Trump to be able to play the system and get the nomination until it was too late for the party and America.
So no, I will do as the Founding Fathers intended and vote FOR someone, not against another. The boogeyman of Hillary being setup is not enough for me to forsake my duty as a Christian and conservative and find a worthy candidate. If the rest of the GOP wants to jump off a cliff, I certainly don't have to follow.
And finally Cruz has betrayed his supporters. And you have nothing to base you claim of Trump being pro-life on. At all. His past record is 100% pro-choice. He's only pandering to get the vote of the right. If he truly changed and ran again in 8-12 years with a demonstrated change of heart and record, then fine, but for now his record and his current (not 11-year-old) behavior makes him unfit for the office of president and unworthy of my vote.
That's why I said, "If you want to say a vote that you're comfortable with then fine". If your vote isn't for Trump, it is by definition wasted as no one besides Trump has a chance. If you don't want to vote FOR Trump, then that's your problem. I'm not just voting against Hillary, I'm voting FOR Trump because I believe in him, like millions of other Americans who are filling up arenas at his rallies.
Are you not aware of Pence's devout christianity? True patriots are supporting Trump. Christians are supporting Trump. I think you have a "holier than thou" attitude but it's your choice. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Hillary is truly evil. If Hillary wins and starts nuclear war, I think you'll regret not supporting Trump.
Then you agree He could be using Hillary to the same ends. Otherwise you claim to speak for God.
Trump and Hillary are both pagans. God can use them to HELP people or to bring judgement. His call. I trust Him unlike the many Christians who think it's up to them to decide Trump is the "godly" candidate. Sad really.
Anyway, enough said. Your die is cast and that's fine. You should vote how you see fit and be mature enough not to criticize others for doing the same.
No more replies from me. Have a nice day.
"I trust Him unlike the many Christians who think it's up to them to decide Trump is the "godly" candidate. Sad really."
Yep, definite holier than thou attitude. Anyone with a brain can tell that Hillary is corrupt and evil. What's sad is your inability to accept Trump.
"You should vote how you see fit and be mature enough not to criticize others for doing the same."
Likewise. Who started an argument on whose meme here? Oh that's right, you.
I'm glad you support Trump. You should vote for him then. Those who support Hillary should vote for her. Those who support other candidates should vote for them. That's how the American system is supposed to work. The two-parties have gamed the system to this crap choice we have now and brainwashed people like you into the "wasted vote" mythology.
I know I was like you before in 2008.
I do know the Pence is a Christian. Yay! But I'm not voting for the second in command, but the first. The VP doesn't represent this country as the "first family", the president does and that person should have good moral character and integrity which Trump has shown in 2016 alone that he does not have.
But Pence is also had his judgement tainted by supporting Trump by being his VP. So while he's a good man I'm sure, his discernment is definitely off.
as for "holier than thou", you can call it what you like. I have to stand before God and give account of my vote. As a Christian, I know that your vote and my vote don't matter -- God will decide who He wants to be President. He raises up the rulers. We should definitely vote, but we should (as Christians at least) should cast a vote we'd not be ashamed of before God. We're going to get a bad leader in either Trump or Hillary. This country is being judged with eight years of Obama and now one of two horrible choices in November. But while I know He will decide which leader we're punished with, I also know that I will honor Him by voting for a candidate who I feel is of proper character and temperament to lead and represent this country.
Everyone should vote their conscience.
No one should tell other how to vote.
Just give it up kid, you've got no proof of anything.
I'll ask again, how many witnesses are there? Why hasn't he been convicted then from any cases since that was almost THIRTY YEARS AGO?
You DO NOT HAVE PROOF. You are f**king retarded.
Then why are both of you here arguing with me about MY choice of vote?
If you think a vote for someone like Gary Johnson means anything, you're delusional. And democracy has already been compromised. Hillary stole the nomination from Bernie Sanders.
And with all of the (unverified, mind you) allegations he's facing.
Shake the foundations brother
we got you