The people really had nothing to do with the shutdown. We had maxed out our potential at the time, the government saw no further gains and saw it as a waste of money. The sad part was letting Space Lab fall back to earth. We had to do it all over again at a higher cost. Luckily it was a joint venture with other countries. I'm hoping to be re-employed when Orion starts up. I used to do a lot with the boosters being used. They are basically the same as the Shuttle but employ one more segment. Orion's are five where the Shuttles were four. I apply for the few positions that pop up once in a while for Space X, Boeing, Jacobs Engineering (Orion) and one other I can't remember but since they are now private they basically hire friends and family. It's sad. There are literally thousands of us former employees here that don't get hired. Thanks for the salute. It was a fun, interesting job.