Giga Chad

You'd be surprised how many of us there are. I've seen a few friends of mine who I never discuss politics with say increasingly based things and I've noticed the general public often come out with surprisingly based things on occasion.
The corporate media would have you believe lies until you eventually go outside and see the world is actually alright.

The mainstream media is the enemy of the people.

"You're voting for someone who wants absolute power and will never let you vote again?"
"Cool bro me too"

Hitler took over the decadent, effeminate Weimar Republic democracy.

He fixed inflation.
He grew the German economy.
He rebuilt the army: international treaties be damned.
He brought in Austria and Czechoslovakia, cucking the old Western empires.
He signed a peace treaty with the USSR.
He made Germany respected and feared.

And then...

And then he threw it all away to fulfil is natsoc dystopia and got crushed under the weight of all the countries he chose to fight at once. Mind you he still almost one at that.

If your point was to try and discredit Fascism through the events WW2 then you're as pathetic as the cowards who ganged up on Mussolini and shot him rather than have a fair fight.

Hitler didn't fail because of Fascism, he failed because of National Socialism and it's twisted ideas that put it at odds with 90% of the planet.

Try again. and this time without contradicting yourself by pointing out an example of Fascism fixing a decadent democracy (if you can)

I think that's your job. Please provide an example of fascism fixing a decadent democracy (if you can).

Yes, of course. My pleasure. One of my sources is...

You 5 minutes ago.

Aaand of course Mussolini's fixing of Italy. While Mussolini did not manage to improve Italy's economy massively due to outside forces ostracization he still certainly improved it.
Where fascism in all cases (Including both the 20th Century states mentioned above) improve economic output (Which is mostly dependent on trade with external states and bodies) - where Fascism's true ability to fix a society lies in is social ethos and improvement of the individual thought and constitution and by extension improving social cohesion. Giving people purpose and identity alongside duty which in turn creates safety.

https://www.markedbyteachers.com/as-and-a-level/history/how-successful-were-mussolini-s-economic-policies.html

Your sources for fascism working: Hitler and Mussolini.

Yes, fascism can work for a time. Ponzi schemes can work for a time. Asset bubbles can work for a time.

And then...

[image deleted] >Your sources for fascism working: Hitler and Mussolini.

Yes. May I also recommend Julius Caesar, Augustus, Aurelian or Franco?

Mussolini was killed by cowards and a mob of feral savages that mutilated his body.
It does't take a big man too beat a defenceless corpse.

Until you decide to fight Mussolini like a man then...

I question the usefulness of any political analogies from that long ago. Ancient Rome was dominant in the Mediterranean for unique reasons that can never be replicated; political systems from 2000 years ago aren't coming back.

Franco is a pretty good example! 1939-1975: That's a pretty long stretch for a dictator. Staying neutral in WWII: best decision he ever made. Post-Franco Spain transitioned into a democracy, but whatever, I'll give it to ya.

Gaddafi ruled Libya for a long time, but he too met a violent end in a trench. Sad!

Might we also consider any number of African countries "governed" (i.e. robbed blind by) strongman fascists?

Bashar al-Assad in Syria: Still alive and kicking, but at what cost to his people?

Dictatorships are usually a lot less stable than they look.

"We're talking about which is better: apples or Oranges."

"Yes, well my favourite is a potato."

"That has nothing to do with apples or oranges."

"NO TRUE SCOTSMAN"

"I would rather drink acid-laced high-sugar soda than have a nice glass of water."

Fair do's.

Sharpshooting? I brought you a broad selection of dictatorships from three different continents in the 20th and 21st centuries. A cornucopia if you will. Doesn't matter what exact flavor of tyranny it is.

It's representative of what happens to average people over and over and again in human history whenever you concentrate power in the hands of a few.

How many more continents and centuries' worth of despotism would you like to explore?

>I question the usefulness of any political analogies from that long ago. Ancient Rome was dominant in the Mediterranean for unique reasons that can never be replicated; political systems from 2000 years ago aren't coming back.

You know that the USA exists right?

>Franco is a pretty good example! 1939-1975: That's a pretty long stretch for a dictator. Staying neutral in WWII: best decision he ever made.

Not getting bogged down against the whole world is pretty effective leadership.

> Post-Franco Spain transitioned into a democracy, but whatever, I'll give it to ya.

Modern Spain can at best be considered a 2nd world country. But hey at least we have pre-selected swamp monsters to elect in a popularity contest, yay dmocracy!

>Gaddafi ruled Libya for a long time, but he too met a violent end in a trench. Sad!
Not related to Fascism, ignored.

>Might we also consider any number of African countries "governed" (i.e. robbed blind by) strongman fascists?

No African country is Fascist, feudalist and autocratic yes, but not Fascist.

>Bashar al-Assad in Syria: Still alive and kicking, but at what cost to his people?
Not Fascism, ignored.

>Dictatorships are usually a lot less stable than they look.

And yet they are far more stable than democracies. Funny how that works.
-Do you not understand what Fascism even is? You pointing at different kinds of strongman ideologies and acting like they're the same is like me calling every type of democratic system the same. Like there's no real difference between a Republic and a social-democracy. You're a bit of a dobber aren't you.

"Not related to fascism. Ignored."

No True Scotsman! I win!

Your argument is that Fascism and other strongman ideologies are the exact same and comparable is just ousting yourself as a facetious know-nothing.

"Banana, Kiwi and strawberry are all fruits so they're all exactly the same."

Aye, and a tabby cat is the exact same as a Tiger since they're both felines.

You're a muppet.

Whether you are offering me a Grape Dictatorship or an Orange Dictatorship doesn’t matter to me. I would rather drink Democracy of any flavor.

Good talk