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Parents explaining why they have power over the child:

they do

Not if the child is like 16 to 18

At that point, its actually legal to become an adult with emancipation.

Most 16 year olds have a job, car, and driver's license. In addition, they are currently saving up for a house/apartment of their own and are paying car insurance/bills in general. Sounds like a normal adult to me

Doesn’t mean the parent doesn’t have authority over them. You’re trying to rationalize being a rebellious person despite your parents having legal custody over you until you’re 18.

And just because a 16 year-old can buy a car, even if he paid for it, and have a part-time job, that doesn’t mean they can (or even should) not have anyone telling them how to manage their lives.

16-18 year-olds are super immature, and I should know all about that. They don’t know the world very well. I’m glad they have parents to control their lives and help them learn.

I'm just saying the only real major difference is that one is going through puberty and doesn't have a fully developed brain yet. While the other does

If you're over 16, you start to become independent as it is. You start to do your own thing, and your parents do their own thing. Thats practically being an adult.

My mom said to me I need to start being independent when I was 15. My teachers keep emphasizing on an idea of teaching yourself the material. All this is connected to the idea of doing your own thing, and that's what adults do!

That is a very major difference. An independent 18 year old is going to make way more stupid decisions than an independent 40 year old.

Owning a car and having a part-time job isn’t as independent as you think.

Yes, it’s good to stop becoming completely dependent on your parents and find a sense of responsibility in life, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t your authority. Your parents can and should build boundaries for how independent you can be until you eventually leave the house.

Everyone is taught this lesson in life: learn from your mistakes

The only way for a 16 to 18 year old to become truly independent is to live on their own and figure out what they want their life to be like. That can't be done with parents putting boundaries on the next generation (16 to 18 year olds)

Obviously if they're pursuing a life of crime or something bad, then of course there should be boundaries! What kind of parent wouldn't do that?!

But overall, if the 16 year old has an overall good scope of what their life is gonna be like and if they're willing to learn and own up to their mistakes, which ultimately is how you learn practically ANYTHING, then the parents shouldn't have any boundaries set on them

They know what they're doing, so let them choose their destiny

It’s not a 16 year-old’s job to be independent. It’s his job to be responsible.

You can figure out what you want to be in life while also being under the authority of your parents. It doesn’t require a sense of complete independence to do that.

Even a lot of older teens don’t know what they’re doing or even what they want to be doing. See that 80% of college students change their majors at least once through their college careers. And you think a 16 year-old is capable of living in the real world knowing what he’s doing?

And even if a 16 year-old did have a good scope of what he wanted to do, great. That still doesn’t mean his parents don’t have authority over him. Knowing what you want to do in life doesn’t make you automatically independent from your mom and dad.

Thats why I said they can learn from their mistakes...so they can decide (without their parents breathing under their necks) how they want to shape their destiny

Sure its not their job to be independent, its their job to be responsible AND learn how to be independent. This is much better learned by not having ur parents breathing under your neck

Trust me, if my mom wasn't as strict as she is, im pretty sure I would've known sooner what I'm going to do after high school

So first you’re talking about how parents shouldn’t have authority over 16 year-olds, and now you’re talking about how they shouldn’t be breathing down their necks as complete helicopter parents.

Now the latter I agree with, but your parents are still in control of your life until you’re 18. They should encourage you to find a sense of what you want to do in your life, but that doesn’t mean they should let you live completely independently from their choices.

If your parents are making you play violin against your will, then yes you have a point. They shouldn’t do that.

But if your parents are telling you what they think you should do in life without acting on it, then no. That’s not helicopter parenting.

Ultimately, its your life. Why should they say something and you HAVE to do it?

Like what you were saying. If your parent tells you to play the violin and you don't want to, they shouldn't force you to.

I'm 90% sure there are parents out there that try to write out what their children's lives are going to be like past 18, and thats not right. They basically lose their unalienable right to a pursuit of happiness.

Parents are free to give you SUGGESTIONS on what you should do with your life, but these suggestions can't sound like "OH NO. YOURE GOING TO DO THIS NO MATTER WHAT" kind of deal. They shouldn't force you to have a life they think you should live and just give you the middle finger to the life you actually want to live (ill give an example of this paragraph in a sec)

For instance, the streamer nick eh 30. He wanted to pursue a life of streaming, but his parents didn't want him to. So, he talked with them about it, they gave their thoughts about it, he told them how much he wanted to do it,, and if you look now, nick is one of the most popular fortnite streamers out there. They let him do it because they knew nick had a scope of how he was gonna be a successful streamer

This goes to show that there can be a middle ground between what the parents suggest and what the kid wants his life to be like. The kid takes into consideration what the parents think, and sees if they're good suggestions or not

It sounds like you’re just talking about helicopter parenting and not the basic authority that parents have over their children.

Yeah, forcing your kid to go to college
when they want to stream games for a living is not good.

But things like curfews, screen time limitations, school grade inspections, basic hygiene maintenance, and dating limitations are all things that your parents can and should control.

So if all you’re saying is that your parents shouldn’t decide your destiny, then yes. I agree. But if you’re saying that 16 year-olds should be completely independent from their parents, then no, I do not.

Your destiny should be up to you. Not your parents

If they are placing boundaries on you that get in the way of your destiny, then that's a bad thing

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