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Why can't the money be used to annihilate ISIS.. and give the country back to the ones fleeing? Bad guys are out numbered 93 to 7. Those are pretty good odds in my opinion.

It can, not saying it can't but the thing is, the western countries sent weapons and money to terrorists in Syria and those terrorists formed ISIS. Also it is the thing about the US invasion in Iraq, there was no terrorist group in Iraq actually, before the invasion. So, the thing is, the western countries already used their money to create this mess, they're not outsiders in this story. So than they can at least accept the refugees running from Syria and Iraq.

What's wrong with letting those people keep their own country. . And running the bad guys out? Can't change the past.. blame does nothing to assist these people. Driving out the bad guys helps the entire region... world. IMHO

In theory that's the best solution. I agree that would be the best, but simply, I don't trust the west. How can I trust the same people who caused all these problems? The western governments have proven to support terrorists in multiple occasions, the western governments still want to overthrow Al Assad. And with this latest happenings in Turkey, don't know if you follow, Turkey shot Russian airplane that was bombing ISIS position in the corridor where they get weapons, where their fighters are coming from the west, and where their oil is being sold. Turkey isn't crazy to make such a move if they wouldn't have allies, and their ally in Syrian war are the western countries. So I honestly doubt the west wants to solve the situation. With all these happenings I think it would be the best if the western countries would pull back from the middle east completely and stop mingling there. About ISIS, I think we can trust Putin to solve it. I don't like Putin, I think he is close to being a dictator, and I think Russia leads imperialist politics just like other super powers, but simply, he is the only one that honestly wants to solve the situation, because it's in it's interest.

What did the west do to cause 9/11? Embassy bombings in Africa.? Marine barracks in Lebanon? USS Cole? WTC in 1993? You have a flawed starting point bro. You speak as if Islamic terrorist have not been agitating the west for decades. Islam has allowed perverted followers to perpetrate hate and violence.. standing by and doing nothing while imams preached hate and death. Iraq invaded Kuwait.. was that America's fault too? Hate groups burn Christian churches and kidnap and rape Christian girls... is that America too? You conveniently blame the west. . And like 99% of muslims... never hold your own accountable for their unprovoked violence. I guess you support ISIS.. and other extremists. . You NEVER criticize them. Why?

here is a question I would like to hear from a practicing Muslim like yourself. Why are not other Muslim countries taking in the refugees, and expect only Western countries to accept them? And why are not other Islamic countries forming a coalition of military to go destroy Isis? Why do they depend on the west? Iraq Iran Saudi Arabia Jordan they all have a forminable military much more powerful than Isis. Yet they do nothing. Why? And why do they not accept the refugees?

I am not a muslim. I'm not even from a muslim background. The west did much more terrorism than those things you're mentioning. US also supported Saddam when he invaded Iran, that was before the war in Kuwait, what about that? And about the Kuwait, what does that has to do with the west? It's their own war, US had no business to interfere there. Also, the US supports the Israeli terror, which made much more casualties than all those incidents you mention combined. Those incidents like in the 9/11 have their individual reasons. I don't know about all of these things, but I do know that terrorism happens. It's done by individual groups for their own reasons and it is not done only by the muslims, nor it is done only against the western countries. It is hard to fight it, but it can under no means be used as an excuse to invade a country. About 9/11, US created Al Qaeda and trained Bin Ladin. So, it is actually partly the US fault It's another story that the US didn't invade Saudi Arabia which is where most of the Al Qaeda members come from. And also, even further, US supports groups such as Al Qaeda in Syria now and supported them in Libya. While in Iraq, what does Iraq has to do with terrorism? Saddam had no connections with 9/11 whatsoever, but was invaded because of the weapons which were never found, so, that invasion alone is a proof that the US and the west can't be trusted. If it wasn't for the Iraqi invasion ISIS would never happen. And not to mention that more than a million people were killed in Iraq, during the US and it's coalition invasion and in following years. While 3700 people were killed in 9/11. So, why doesn't anyone get convicted because of the invasion in Iraq?

Also, you see, as there is an ongoing war in Syria, where the west supports the rebels, there is a war in Yemen too, where the west actually, supports Saudi Arabia to fight against the rebels. So it is obvious that the west doesn't care about anything but it's interest. And those are domination of the middle east, it's territory, regimes and resources. It is the same with Russia, but simply, Russia is a lesser evil in this case. About the muslim countries, well, you see, you have more refugees in Istanbul than in the entire Europe. About other muslim countries, most of them simply don't care. They are selfish, just like the most of the people in general. As simple as that.

You're muslim,.. its obvious by your condemnations of America,.. and support of terror groups. Kuwait asked the US for assistance,.. your history is flawed. Isra3l responds to attacks when palestinians break treaties,.. every time, and build tunnels to attack israel. You forgot that. Saddam was connected,..he was giving $$ to terror organizations to plot against the US. You are getting stats from a radical mosque or comic book bro,.. there have not been 1M people killed by the US in Iraq. But hey,.. how many iraqis did Saddam kill himself? Did you forget that? How about him killing Kurds? Forget that bro? Well we agree on one thing,.. muslim countries care nothing for the displaced muslims and wont take them... but are hypocrites telling western countries to accept them. So are you a foriegn student in the US or other western country,... or just a foriegn user using this site to promote anti-west opinions?

Israel broke and missed more peace treaties with Palestinians than vice versa. Hamas actually posed a long term peace treaty not long ago, all the conditions were normal and Israel rejected it. Because Israeli nationalists want Palestinian land, as simple as that. Palestinian nationalists would most likely do the same for Israelis, but of course, you won't admit that Israelis are like them, no way, right? You see, I admit that Palestinian or other people from middle east are bad, but you just can't give up that shiny image of the western coalition, an image which is obviously wrong. Where and from who did you get that info that Saddam was connected to terrorist organisations? Even US officials didn't accuse him for that when they invaded Iraq. About the Kurds, Kurds, just like Palestinians, should have their own state. Not just in Iraq, they should have their state on the entire Kurdistan territory, which means Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq. All these regimes are bad, but simply, so is Israel and Saudi Arabia and they're US allies. How come Saudi Arabia is an ally to the west? How come the west is not aiding rebels in Yemen?

About me being muslim, you've actually proven how backwards and limited minded you are. You have obviously never heard any opinion but the US right wingers, nationalists and 'patriots'. You're obviously surrounded by those people so you don't even realise that people who disagree with them exist. You are also closed in your perception of the world which is divided on 'us and them', if you think I have to be a muslim to criticize the west. Is Noam Chomsky a muslim? Michael Moore?

My position is veer simple, most of the regimes in the world are bad. But simply, US, just like Russia or China, are not coming to middle east or other parts of the world to help. They are coming to fulfil their imperialistic agendas, they can help if that's in their interest, if not, they're gonna wreck a country like Iraq, or Chechnya, or whatsoever. The US can't be trusted. Russia can't be either, but if you have to chose someone to deal with ISIS, it's Russia, cause they will actually do it. About else, with the fact that you are basically calling me a liar and that you're not able to comprehend a simple fact like the one that a European and an atheist can criticize the west, I have no desire to talk to you anymore. You are not a bad person, but simply, we have no basis to continue this conversation this way. Have a nice day and goodbye.

You are speaking with bias against the US,.. as a 3rd party, that's how I know you're not a US citizen. And you cherry pick what questions to answer because you have no rational answer for all of them. You have a bias that favors radical islam. You criticize One man... Trump, in a meme because of a stupid registration comment but can't criticize radical Islam for butchering innocent people. That's how I call you on BS.. and that you are a muslim disguising your contempt for the west through memes. What's worse, .. a jerk politician suggesting a registration. .. or a group of psycho fascist killers driving people from their country, murdering, raping and stealing in the name of a god? If muslims were so against the murdering radicals.. they could have stopped them before they grew into a large army. Why didn't they? Why do imams scream death to all infidels at a mosque and every one cheer? Why are muslims leaving all over the world to join isis by the thousands if the don't agree? Why did the entire soccer stadium in Turkey with over 60,000 boo when asked for a moment of silence for the slaughtered in Paris? Then chant allah akbar? If it's only a few % of muslims who interpret the koran to hate and kill infidels.. why don't the good ones stop them,.. lock them up? Why will no muslim country accept Palestinians or refugees? Why is the excuse for islamic hate blamed on the US going into Iraq when there were several acts of unprovoked violence against the US BEFORE the 1st soldier ever set foot in iraq? Why did almost 3000 men women die on 9/11 when there was no invasion of Iraq then? If it's blamed in the US wanting oil.. why has the US not got one drop of oil from Iraq? You can't answer that crap... you just point fingers at anyone who criticizes islamic terror. Why is it that in almost 100 % of the world where there is ongoing violence.. Islam is at the heart of it and involved? You can't defend facts bro.. and making up stats ... does not make them true.. it just means you're in denial.

A soccer stadium booed probably because you've never heard a moment of silence for the Iraqi victims during the american invasion, Palestinian ones or not even the victims of an ISIS attack in Beirut. Second, only one third of the muslim population lives in the middle east. Blaming this on islam as a religion is a pure chauvinism. I'm not cherry picking anything, it is you who refuse to answer my question when I ask them multiple times. I have no problems answering anything you ask in fact I answered everything I've seen as important and would gladly answer anything you ask. I gave you the answer for 9/11. Terrorism, ok. Al Qaeda is to blame, fine, agreed. Does that justify any of the wars the US started afterwards? No. Also, US created Al Qaeda, al Qaeda is financed by the Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia is an US ally. So, what to do with that? About Iraq, well, you probably realise already that you can't defend a pure act of aggression like the US invasion in Iraq. With calling me a muslim again, and especially a defender of radical islam, you are again proving your chauvinism, primitivism and backward and close minded perspective, hopelessly trapped in the western chauvinist and nationalist propaganda. And you don't even know how ignorant do you sound, that's terrible, it actually makes me lose faith in human race for a fact I am against any kind of dictatorship. I think religions should actually seize to exist, cause they're backwards and their holy books are fulled with violence (yes, and the Bible too). But you don't get that, right? Why is in almost 100 percent of ongoing violence islam involved? Why is the US involved in almost 100 percent of ongoing violence in the last 50 years? As I've said, only one third of muslims live in the middle east, and also, muslims are being killed and persecuted by christians in the philippine and Buddhists in Myanmar. But you won't even check that out. I am done with you, you are hopelessly primitive, I am sorry to break your illusions, but you are defending the biggest criminals now living on this planet, by supporting them you are supporting muslim terrorists, which gain weapons from the west, you are also supporting terrible sharia law regime, Saudi Arabia. That is all you, and you're so fckin ignorant that you can't comprehend that I am not a muslim, you can't break one single prejudice in your head even though ton of your own countrymen agree with me. Goodbye dude, I won't reply to this ridiculous crap anymore.

You stated it right by saying you only answered the questions you felt important. Like I said .. you cherry picked. I never said I agreed with 100% of US policy.. but you rant against the US and defend a murdering cult. Again.. WHY HAVE THE GOOD MUSLIMS NOT WEEDED OUT THE BAD ONE ALL THESE YEARS? Based on what you say.. there would be No islamic violence if there was no extremist. Who allowed the extremist to grow? Remember 9/11... there were muslims all over the world dancing in the streets an celebrating 3000 innocent deaths. Sound like a religion of peace to you? I never saw Americans dancing in the street like bafoons when muslims are killed. There is no logical comparison. When is the last time Christians flew planed into buildings... for no reason but sheer hate. Are Christians raising hell all over the world kidnapping school girls and raping them? Stoning people to death. . Beheading innocent people? Nope. But you defend the ones that do. You're probably a student in a western country.. taking benefits and hating the ones giving it to you on the same day. Maybe you should explore a new religion.. Christians have a lot to offer you.

'Support for terror groups', which and where did I say I support any terror group? And, ironically, it is you who support terror. You support it when it comes from the west, Saudi Arabia and Israel. And also by supporting your government you are actually supporting ISIS and other terrorists your government sent weapons to.

Lol... nice deflection. Ha ha ha... making a counter accusation when you can't respond with logic.. or answer the tuff questions that point to Islam. Truth hurt bro?

Ha ha ha... you got caught in a lie! You said: "by supporting your government .." ha ha ha! If you live here in the US.. it's our govt! Busted! I knew you were a foriegn infiltrater trying to post propaganda. Nice try! I hope the FBI is reading your rants. It's easy to see where you lean.

I am calling you what you are. If you condemn crime done by muslims, Russia, or someone else, and supporting crime done by Israel, and the US, you are a hypocrite. That's a definition of hypocrissy. Also, if you claim you are against radical islam and muslim terrorists, and support your government in arming them, and support Saudi Arabian regime, it's also a hypocrisy. If you take it as an insult, that's your thing. Say you were wrong and that you do not support these things, and you will not be a hypocrite anymore. As simple as that. At least I am not calling you a liar and saying how you are a mormon or a Jew, for example.

Ha ha ha... Now it's an insult to be Mormon or jew? But it's OK to be ISIS right? Now your muslim side is showing. See... i don't hate mormons,.. jews.. Hindu. . Buddhist. . Etc. I don't even hate muslims. I just think muslims have a shared responsibility for creating terrorist groups.. because they sat by and did nothing. Here's the truth: if all muslims were truly peaceful and tolerant of other beliefs.. it wouldn't make any difference if someone armed them.. because a true peaceful muslim would not use those arms for evil. . Would they? That proves your theory belongs in the trash can. You secretly want a caliphate, .. one world religion, where everyone else is dead or a slave. Don't you? It's ok to admit it.. i know the koran teaches you to lie to me because I'm an infidel.. but you're misleading yourself. Deep down.. you think all religions are wrong except islam.. and you want all those people and religions eradicated from the earth. That's why u support ISIS secretly.. and lied about being muslim. You are a future terrorist. You're probably a young educated student.. with radical ideas.. hate the west. You hate anyone that supports israel.. or practices a faith other than islam. Admit it.. it's OK.

When did I say it's an insult to be a mormon or a Jew? When did I say it's a fckin insult? I simply said, that, for difference than you, I am not calling you a liar and I am not telling you that you are, a mormon, or a Jew for example, it can't be fckin Buddhist as well. Jesus, dear Christ. But ok, you shown what you think, cause you obviously think calling me a muslim is an insult. And you are again, showing the lowest levels of primitivism with thinking I have to be a muslim to criticize the western politics. Jesus, do you even have a brain? Man, did someone do you a hypnosis and put you your government's officials speeches to make that the only thing you have in your head? Caliphate?! Goodbye. This topic is seriously over, go to your fckin life and be a nationalist, crime justifier and an ISIS supporter as you are. You see because it was your money which was used to arm the terrorists like ISIS, not mine. And you don't even have anything against it, you willingly let your government arm the terrorists and then you'd actually go and kill them. Do you enjoy killing people? Probably not, but you obviously do not enjoy thinking either, because if you would, you'd actually answer my fckin questions, I should make a meme for you with just written Saudi Arabia, Yemeni rebels, Saudi Arabia, Yemeni rebels, all over it. Go live with millions of dead people on your soul. You see, I don't believe in God. But you do, as you've said. So, I will gladly point out to the fact that, when you die, if you believe you will confront God, you will be asked about these people, who's innocent death you celebrate... By celebrating your officials, your army. You have a lot to worry. Good, fckin, bye. Terrorist.

You're fibbing again. You can't be a devout muslim and not believe in God. If a radical muslim hears you say that friend.. you could be killed for apostasy. . And insulting the prophet who says there is a god. Since I am Christian. . I will pray this don't happen to you.

Yes, right, I can't be a devoted muslim and not believe in God, which makes you a fckin unbelievable ignorant here, for calling me a muslim. Yeah, I don't live in a muslim country, or not entirely muslim, cause half of my population is consisted of muslims, but still, I am not afraid of them, cause they're no different than anyone else from my country. Because we didn't have the US 'liberate us' and wreck us so that half of our population turns to terrorism out of despair. Also, I am very lucky for not living in the US and ending up like Edward Snowden for example, which you would probably like to see, cause you threatened to reporting me to the FBI.

I didn't threat to report you to the FBI.. they monitor everything anyway. Even me for criticizing our stupid president.

Don't worry, you're not a treat for them, you are exactly what they wanna see. You are criticizing your president for not doing more shit in the world than he could,every dictator would like to have you as it's citizen. You are defending so strongly your illusions that you will rather look like a complete idiot with saying completely sensless stuff on my acount that actually face the reality and actually answer the question about Saudi Arabia and Yemen. You see, you could write tons of comments here but you can't answer two simple questions. You can go to the army a carry a gun and can't face your prejudices, illusions, fixations, the fact that your elites probably laugh to people like you, when they use you for their crime. You are sad indeed.

And what do you do resolve islamic evil? Nothing. You just pass blame. You sit at a desk and criticize the west.. on a western site. The reality is that you would be free to do that in the USA as well. Me as a non Muslim, if I were living in a Islamic country, would I be free to criticize Islam? I think you know the answer to that. At least in the USA we are free to criticize even our own government. other people in the world are not. They have to live in fear of their government. That's why they migrated to the USA. If I were in an Islamic country today, I would have to be in fear if I criticized Islam. The religious police would immediately arrest me or I could be beaten to death by a murdering mob. At least in the USA we are free to protest even our own government, and our own leaders. As long as we do it peacefully we can gather and protest. This is not true in other Islamic regimes

When did I said I live in the US? Friend, I don't wanna insult you, it started fine but this turned out to be one of the worst debates I've ever had. Worse in the level of intellect and reason. I replied to everything you asked. You replied to nothing. Honestly, when seeing you, seeing what you say actually (and what you refuse to say) you make it 100 percent sure, we are going into more shit, more terror, more wars, and perhaps even into a world war three. Cause if most of your countryman think like you, which they probably do, and most of other people in other parts of the world think alike when it comes to their own countries... We're doomed. Go call the FBI, please. :D At least, they won't make you use your mind and logic, so it's an easy task, much easier than having a normal debate. Goodbye for good this time. Have a nice dream world you live in.

You are exactly the reason there is mistrust between Islam and the rest of the world. You refuse to separate yourself and completely condemn all the Islamic violence. I say again... if there are so few radical nut job islamist.. why did the rest of the Islamic religion allow them to grow into this menace that threatens the world. If there is a Baptist preacher teaching hate in my state... he gets SHUT DOWN.. period.. end of story. If they comitt violence.. jail and shut down. Islam allows this murdering cancer to grow.. and you cannot deny hate and intolerance is preached in many mosques. Again... if its wrong.. to interpret the koran in this extreme manner.. why are there not imams denouncing the bad ones and locking them up where they cannot poison other minds? Please explain this.. because this is the basis of mistrust with the west and islam.

When you explain why don't you completely condemn your government's crime, why do you support terrorists and a sharia law dictatorship I can explain those things. You can also answer me why haven't westerners learned after slaughtering three continents that it's time for them to stop doing shit to the rest of the world. Also, if christianity is a religion of peace why do christians still kill more people in the world than anyone else? This is your logic. And about islam, google actual muslim countries and see which ones have sharia law and terrorism. And then google the US or Russian invasions or bombings and see where did they happen. :) Not saying that population of those countries aren't to be blamed also, but it isn't only their fault. Also, google about muslims in the Philipines and Myanmar. And also, as I've said, I don't care, and I couldn't care less about religion. You are justifying crime done by christians because you are a coward that can't face the reality. You could also answer me why are quotes about God ordering Jews to kill entire populations in some lands, quotes about Gay people being punished to death still in the Bible? Cause you see, Bible has it's share of the violence just like the Quran. That's why we have all this, because you religious fanatics and nationalists fight each other and are backwards so much that you can't even believe that the people who disagree with you are not 'one of them'. You got too much from me friend, I suggest you should google Noam Chomsky for example, he is a devoted muslim like myself, you can find lots of the information about terrorism in his books. :D

You deny being muslim.. then admit to being a "devoted muslim". Why did you lie? Two reasons.. "Tamiya" and "kitman" are 2 forms of telling a lie that is taught and encouraged to infidels.

You say the bible teaches violence? Where on the world are christians killing non christians simply for not being a christian? Please use a scale as large as the killing in the name of Allah. Tell me.. friend.. what should the USA do when violent islamic groups threaten to destroy America? Allow more 9/11s. . Another France styles attack? What is your solution for the westerns countries scourged by these murdering barbarians... and tell me what islam is doing to stop it?

Listen, hypocrite and a crime justifier, google 'Noam Chomsky' and see what kind of a 'devoted muslim like myself' he is. Also, tell me, when and where did I justify terrorism? Where and when did I said I justify radical islam? You see, I never said any of those, anyone normal who read my comments would never accuse me of that. You asked something about Americans not getting oil from Iraq. You were never supposed to get it, Iraq wasn't invaded for you, american citizens, but for your elites who use you as a tool for their perverted ambitions. Iraq is invaded to overthrow Saddam which was getting powerful and posed a threat to the US imperialist agenda. And ignorant hypocrites like you justify that.

You would rather join your army and kill innocent people than to face your governments propaganda, which uses you as their puppet, and cuddles you in with it's worries about the 'safety of the US citizens'. If you want safety, convict your criminals and pull your army back to your soil.

Do christians now kill for their God or their nation, it's irrelevant, they kill people. Millions of people. And you are one of them. If not a direct murderer, you are their supporter. I condemn all the evil in the world, I am against, US, Russia, China, ISIS, Saudi Arabia, Iran, muslim terrorists, Israel, the western countries supporting the US, Myanmar, Philipines, African dictators, etc. All of these countries are doing evil in the world. And you are on their side. It doesn't matter which one, you are all equally bad. You are a murderer and a terrorist. And I have no business talking to you anymore, cause you can't grasp things simple as 2+2. Go away.

Your name calling is a display of immaturity. . That's what people with no reasonable justification to their opinion do. We'll done.. your character is reflecting your contempt for any opinion that differs from yours. Keep insulting bro.. it's a lack of intelligence and ignorance of world events.

Screw them..........I need my BK chicken nuggets before the price goes up again!

All your memes.. resonate w/an anti - USA tone. Every time a country is in trouble with a natural disaster or some evil butchering force.. they call upon the US to help. Not Russia. . Not China.. or other countries. Try showing a little appreciation for the good the USA does instead of constant criticizm.. and I'll reconsider my opinion. I see nothing but subtle or outright overt contempt for America in your memes and comments. That's how I knew you were an ISIS sympathizer. You don't criticize Islam for allowing terrorist organizations to proliferate... why?

If there was no British and French empire, the Germans would never start a war against them, also, if there was no USA, Britain and France, which made sanctions of Germany which resulted in unbelievable poverty after the world war one, Hitler would most likely be an irrelevant figure in German politics, it is unlikely he would get enough support for his ideas. And even though Hitler was bad and should be stoped, the 'ally forces' are not good, they're just the lesser evil. It was about countries wanting to dominate the world, if you remember, the world was started because of colonies and power. Brits and French are not the good guys there, nor are the Americans. Americans already had their doctrines that they have the right to rule the American continents, Americans already attacked Mexico and took Texas and California by that aggression, etc, the US already proved itself to be the same as the British, French, Russians and Germans. Just another colonial force. I appreciate the free speech I have, but you see, that wasn't given to me by the US. That was achieved in the French revolution already. I think lot of good things came from the west, good trends, music, stuff like that. Lot of good thinkers came from the west, like Noam Chomsky for example. But the west is also doing the most evil int he world today and it should be stopped. And you justify it, so, we will never agree about this as long as you do not condemn the crime done by your country.

There you go again.. criticism to everyone but islam.

What does islam has to do with the world war 1 and 2?

This is a site for westerners. There are only few Russians here, probably also only few muslims. There is no point to talk about them here, to who will I criticize them here? I can only support your prejudices by doing that. Also, I am a European. I don't care about Russia, that's none of my business. I can think Russia is bad, but that doesn't interest me since I am neither threatened by Russia, and I do not live, nor intend to live in Russia. About someone calling the US, who is calling you to help? You are calling yourself, maybe you were called to help in Kosovo and in one or two cases like that, but that is irrelevant. About Russia, or China, following your logic, Russia was called to help the minorities in Georgia. Also, they were called to help Syria and they are the only ones doing true help to people fighting ISIS terrorists there, which were created and armed by the west.

On your point of US leadership failing the fight against terrorism with ISIS.. i agree! We have a weak inept president! But the US gives more in foriegn aid to poor people than all the world combined! And it's not the government. . It's the good people racing in their pockets to give to charities. Try saying something nice about the people bro. We can't help it if we have a weak president.

I am interested in politics. I never talk about the people in everyday lives. I know that very well. I come from a country which had a war, Bosnia and Herzegovina. I am from a catholic background. We had a war between catholics, muslims and ortodox people in my country. Most of the people in my country are nice, simple, and not bad people. But they are also nationalists, homophobic... Today, all of them just want to live normal lives. But if some president would try to manipulate them into war, most of them would believe the propaganda, most of them would think they are jeopardised and go into war. Just like they did 25 years ago, before I was actually born. That's the paradox. People can be 'fine', 'nice' but that's not enough. As long as most of the people are nationalist, ignorant and have prejudices, we will always have war. Because someone will always manipulate them. And they will accept it. They will find it easier to go to war than to face their prejudices.

About the west, the US politics. I am not talking about that. I am talking about the US 'war on terror' in fact. That is something that should never happen. Just like the invasion in Iraq. If terrorists are the problem, the US invasion in Afghanistan made it worse. And invasion in Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists. Also, as I've said here, lot of times... Saudi Arabia is a sharia law dictatorship and a terrorist supporter. And it's an US ally. So, simply, to much of this doesn't make sense. When you look at it, a logical conclusion is that the US doesn't care about islamic terrorists or cruel regimes in the middle east. If they would, they would invade a Saudi Arabia, and not support it. And they wouldn't invade Iraq, and invasion which is the main cause for the uprise of ISIS.

So, as I've said, if you want to fight the terrorists, fight against the military actions of your government. That alone won't stop it, but that is absolutely necessary if we want to stop the bad things done in the world. We have to start from the US and it's invasions and the horror they caused. Some terrorists probably will exist after that, but then we can think some other ways to stop them, which is not invading countries in the middle east.

It is a holiday here.. so will not have time for long comments. I wish you no I'll feelings even if we disagree. I know debates can get heated. . But I respect your opinion. Maybe later?

I don't have much time as well, and this is taking it at the moment. We can talk later. I respect your opinion as well, I wouldn't debate it if I wouldn't respect it. We can talk later, have a good time. :)

Does islam deserve any blame for allowing butchering murdering @ssholes to kill in the name of allah? For allowing imams to preach hate in mosques?

Yes, it does. I agree that it does. But, that is not 'islam' who has the blame, but muslims themselves, people who approve it. I've also had my share of listening to nationalist priests in my country, justifying things christian nations do or did. I don't think Christianity should be blamed for that... Or in fact, I do think that there is lot of violence in religions themselves. Maybe they are partly to blame. But that is all monotheistic religions, they are all similar in that regard. I've read both Bible and Quran... Qoran not that much, but I know enough. There is too much violence in those books. And it is not surprising, cause they were made in violent circumstances. Actually, from what I could tell about religions, only truly non violent religion is Buddhism. And you also have Buddhists killing muslims now in Myanmar. So, it is about the people. People are violent. Religions only reflect the people.

But if you ask, yes, I do actually think the middle east is backwards when compared to the west, but it is also being constantly ruined by the west. The region is not allowed to progress, how can anyone progress if somebody invades his country? They have their share of the blame, I agree. But also, the west has it's share too. And you are not willing to accept that.

Now we agree ! Islam is just as guilty as the failed US policies that helped cause this mess. We agree. But American people are mostly good. I have 2 muslim friends.. one is a very good guy,.. a pilot for a big airline. He is from Iran. He has told me Islam shared a large responsibility for allowing terrorism to grow by not stopping radical ideas as soon as they start.

Yes, ok, but do we agree that the US is responsible for that as well? Do we agree that invasion in Iraq was a crime and should be convicted as one? Do we agree that the west should not mingle in the middle east? Do we agree that the 'war on terror' just made it worse? Do we agree that the west shouldn't send money to terrorists in Libya and Syria? Do we agree that we should put the people in the western governments to jail for these things?

Would you rather saddam Hussain still rule iraq? You realize he was killing more people than the war caused.. right? Why do muslims like you curse if someone has a different opinion? I thought it was a religion of peace and tolerance.

No, Saddam was not killing more people than the war cased. Where did you get that info? How do you even know Saddam was a muslim, what does islam has to do with that? Iraq was not a sharia law country. Well, why don't you americans stick to your own soil, why don't you condemn your criminals, why don't you morn people you've killed. I thought you are a country of justice and freedom right? And about islam, read my lips ' I DON'T GIVE A SHIT'. When you pull your army back to your country and convict your criminals than you'll have a right to talk about other people. Go google how many people you've killed in the world in the last 20 years. No other country in the world, no other dictator can match you. Live with that, if you have a conscience at all.

If it were not for the USA. . You would be wearing a swastika on your sleeve and speaking german. Thank God the USA protected your family in WWII and stopped Germany. Was that a crime by the USA too?

Tell me.. how you propose to stop terrorism. . To include terror attacks in all non muslim countries. Lets say that from this point forward. . There is no military action in any islamic country. Are you saying that now all world terrorist would stop killing? What would you have islam do ?

First, Saddam had nothing to do with terrorism. So, for a start, I would stop invading countries with silly excuses. I would stop being a Saudi Arabian ally and force sanctions on Saudi Arabia for supporting terrorists. I would stop supporting terrorists in Syria. I wouldn't support them in Libya in the first place. I would sanction Israel and force it to allow Palestinian state, that would stop te terrorism in that country. As a US or a western countries, I would pull ny army back to my soil, stop invading other countries and mingling in the business in the muslim countries. I would protect my self as a country and have good security agencies to protect my own soil. That wouldn't stop all the terrorism maybe, but you simply have to take some kind of a risk. Just as you don't know when will a new racist like the one in Charlestone shootings happen, you don't know about muslim terrorism also. But you have to accept the risk. Just as you can't invade all countries where white people come from to stop racists killing black people, you can't invade muslim countries to stop terrorism done by muslims as well. You can try your best to protect yourself, and that's it. Also, you should stop creating more terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, cause they're created by the US. About islam, what, and who is 'islam'? What should Christianity do about the US crimes? Muslim communities world wide condemn the terrorist attacks like the ones in Paris. There is nothing more to do about it, nor that 'islam' could do anything else.

Sure friend, the soccer stadium in Turkey was a classic example of a Muslim country or community condemning the attacks in Paris. So what you say is not true. Muslims around the world dancing in the streets celebrating the events of 911 is another example. Palestinians will never live peacefully with the Israelis. We have heard Muslim regimes threaten to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. That is not a religion of peace and tolerance. The truth is Islam wants a world caliphate. They only want to kill or enslave all non Muslims. That is why we have radical Muslim terrorist doing horrible murdering acts around the world. They never target each other, they only target non-muslims. They rape they burn they destroy they behead they stone all in the name of Allah

Here is something you should see, when you talk about muslims.

http://anonhq.com/propaganda-and-islam-what-youre-not-being-told/

Also, when you talk about Israel and Palestine, see what some Israelis say themselves:

http://www.haaretz.com/misc/tags/Israel%20%20Palestine-1.484652

Also, you can check about the casualties of a US invasion in Iraq here:

http://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/

Here is what a Philadelphian professor, Noam Chomsky says about terrorism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRbnPA3fd5U

But maybe you don't have to check it out, cause you know, I'm sure these people are just undercovered muslims wishing islamic caliphate just like myself. ;) Why think about what they say, when you can take a gun and shoot people, right?

I don't care about that soccer stadium. Islamic institutions shared their regret. I know muslims from my country did. I don't care about Turkey. Did you ever have a moment of silence for the victims of Iraqi invasion, in the US or any western countries? For dead Palestinians? For people killed by ISIS in attack in Beirut? By your drones killing innocent families and children? When you have that, you'll have some kind of a right to moralise and attack others. Turkish politics is bad. Yours is worse. The US politics is the worst politics in the world at this moment, the US is a country which kills the most innocent people in the world. When you have people sharing their moments of silence because of the US crimes, than you can complain about Turks, or other people not respecting a moment of silence for Paris. But you won't have that because most americans are immoral crime justifiers like yourself.

That they never target each other Is a total lie. ISIS attacked people in Lebanon and is also in war with Syrian and Iraqi regimes. Hamas is also ready for a peace with Israelis, they refuse it. Iran did say they wanna wipe Israel of the map, and that's bad. But Israel is wiping Palestine of the map, the US surrounded Iran with it's military bases. So, how come Israel and the US are better than this muslim countries.