The difference between the masses and the elect

Something else, this meme isn't about Disney ruining SW. lol I just used those tags for my own organization. :)

Yeah, I already explained this though. The trailers give enough info about them to determine from. Plus I already know that they aren't using the EU for the storyline.

I can watch a trailer to a film and know before seeing the film if it's good or not. And trust me, it works every time. For me at least. So that's how I know. :)

Thought you might like this picture.

Sriously, Disney has had its time. Let Universal or some other new company have the attention for a while. Disney makes enough money off its parks to keep the lights on. :l

No there f**king frozen to mars

Disney, all imgflippers see how you really are

lol That's like...at least a hundred people! lol :)

Walt was a freemason

IFKR? :)

Correction: the last one is how toxic fans see Disney.

Haha! So true! XD

What's that guy from? I've seen it before but don't know what he's called and was wanting to find some vids on yt. :l

That's Dead mou5e. Hes a canadian dj or some shit like that.

Cool. 300 records is a great collection. I have around 30-40 of my parents but they're mainly country and rock from the 70's and 80's. I'm pretty sure there's a Zappa album or two in there though. I like his song Jewish Princess. Hilarious!

My digital collection though is a wide spectrum of music. I have 15 years worth (1985-2000) of top 100 songs, classical, video game music, alternative, it runs the gamut of genres. If you do end up checking those guys out let me list some tracks to sample:

Pelican: March to the Sea and The Woods(same album: March Into the Sea. Slightly different from the song track, I know lol.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1XsRltRoT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNZCuH-iYLo
Earthless: Lost in the Cold Sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HITHygbE_BA&list=PLCD636315F59E04D4&index=120
Monkey3: Through the Desert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mDWpPbzOUc&index=126&list=PLCD636315F59E04D4
Stoned Jesus: I am the Mountain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCaInA1NeZE&list=PLCD636315F59E04D4&index=121
Om: On the mountain at dawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk9cwB2syB4&list=PLCD636315F59E04D4&index=119

And if you're looking for something that's not metal/rock I'd check out Mint Royale and Scout Niblett. They're two different types of music too. Both from Britain I think and if you're a fan of music you may like them too. :)

I checked out Scout Niblett yesterday. Brought me back to my coffee house and folkfest days. Good chillin music for sure. Im gonna check that stuff out. The digital age makes it easy.

Totally. Youtube and other sites just put it all at your fingertips/earbuds. Glad you liked some of her stuff. Hope you get to check some of those other links out too.

For Scout Niblett though, I like IBD, Dinosaur Egg, Miss My Lion, Just Do It, and Duke of Anxiety so far. She's way better than what plays on the radio here in the states. I even made a slide show vid of Cecil the Lion to Miss my Lion. lol In a snarky way though, of course.

If you check out Mint Royale here's my picks: Ring(with Willem Dafoe), From Rusholme with Love(their best track to me, it was in Spaced), Free, the Effect on Me, Little Words, and Dancehall Places. They have remixes that are great too. Hope you like some of those links dude. :)

Deadmau5*

Thanks. I keep seeing it and was wondering what it sounds like. Mouse huh? Like House music. lol :)

Yeah house stuff. But he spells it with a 5 because you know...canadian.

Deadmau5. I Listened to a few. It's...okay. Saw also he was sued by Disney for his symbol. It made me like him and hate Disney more. lol :)

Yeah thats it. Deadmau5. Im really ontop of my techno house . I havnt bin to a club in a bit. Well not one that didnt have brass poles and daddy issues.

lol

I like electronic and instrumental music so I could get used to it, it's just not the best I've heard. Still interesting though. I love that one from Super Troopers by Bubbles, Bidibodi Bidibu(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJrJ5FohmdI). And Kodiak Star's 2 tracks are great(The Divide and As We Run). Do you know The Circ? They're not house or techno necessarily, but a lot of people use their stuff to make techno songs. :)

Nah. I'm rock n roll, blues, funk n some jazz n big band. I play drums when im not making memes. Ha ha. Oh and old school gangst rap. What white bred suburban canadian kid didnt thro down some NWA. Ha ha.

lol I'm in to all genres. So long as it sounds good to me. I noticed a lot of guys will only listen to what they perceive is "macho" so I understand the clarification. But "Im really ontop of my techno house " does sound like you were saying you listened to it some. lol

Do you like Stoner Rock? Like Pelican, Om, Stoned Jesus, Earthless, or Monkey3? :)

Maybe old school stoner rock like Frank Zappa, Woody Guthrie, Greatful Dead. I will check out those other guys tho. I've a pretty eclectic collection. Just got 300 records from my folks and a large digital library over the years. Whatever the mood strikes me.

How can people possibly think Disney will mess things up when Episodes 1 - 3 already destroyed what was left of the original Movie Magic? All Disney has to do is make a medocre episode 7 and it will be a step up from the last three films we got.

Actually that's sort of a myth. The people who say they didn't like the prequels tend to be suffering from a badwagon effect. Watch them again. They are great films. Especially ROTS. If you watch the OT, the acting in that isn't great either other than Obi, Yoda, and the older actors. But the three main characters aren't as good as people's nostalgia thinks they were. lol

Again, you're bashing the prequels, but i just think that means you are suffering from crowd mentality. They are great films. Your idea that the prequels somehow destroyed the OT is wrong. Maybe for you and other scifi fans, but not for SW fans. :)

My take on this is very different than yours. I hated ROTS with a passion. Don't think I was even able to finish it the first time I watched it (I went back and watched it later, because people kept referring to things in it I hadn't seen). I think it's the worst of the prequels by far, and possibly one of the worst movies of all time.

Episodes I and II were OK. I like to get on the bandwagon and bash them for the fun of it, but really, they are watchable, and I've gone back and watched them a number of times. Interesting minor characters, good action scenes (especially the multi-layered battle at the end of Episode I, similar to the threeway final battle in ROTJ, but also the other action scenes, in both movies). The detective type story in Episode II was an interesting direction, too. Overall watchable, decent films.

But I think the biggest problem with the prequels was that most people (myself included), expected George Lucas to deliver the exact same thing as the OT, and George Lucas didn't deliver that (he wasn't trying to, as far as I can tell).

As for Episode 7, I don't doubt it will suck. I just don't think it's realistic to hope that J.J. Abrams, with his trite saccharine superficial style, and even more so as part of the Disney commercial machine, can possibly deliver a solid Star Wars film. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy enough of the elements of it to make it worth seeing (Han Solo, Chewbacca, the Millenium Falcon, John Williams' music, the lightsaber duels, the aerial dogfights, and just the overall feeling of returning to the Star Wars 'world' again).

I'm keeping my expectations low, but I am looking forward to seeing it in a way. I'm being realistic that it will suck, but I'm hoping it won't suck too badly.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Hope you don't mind the long comment. :)

You've never seen the Britney Spears movie or the Room if you think ROTS is the worst film of all time. lol Can you name specifics? Other than acting preferably since that's too vague a critique.

George was making HIS universe. That's what he did. And I love it. Except for the newest Disney part of it. lol

You're right that seeing the Falcon and OT cast will be great. But the rest of the film is going to be a huge sucking sound. lol As for fight choreography, I KNOW that's going to be good. They got the guys from The Raid to work on it. If you haven't seen the Raid 1&2 you need to. It's got some great fight scenes. Better than all the Matrix films combined. Iko Uwais(Rama from the Raid 1&2) and Yayan Ruhian(Mad Dog/Prakoso in the Raid 1&2) are excellent martial artists.

They will say that. The film is going to fail. If people were mad at the guy who made the franchise when he couldn't deliver, imagine how they'll feel about Disney mucking it up? I hope this kills Disney. That would make me so happy. lol :)

I think one of the things that would most likely turn people against Disney is if one of the main characters from the OT dies in Episode 7 (I've heard rumors to that effect). If that does happen, I believe people will hate them for that.

Another thing would be if it's just a bad movie. People say the prequels were bad (and I can understand why they say that), but it's not impossible to imagine Episode 7 being much, much worse. And if it is, I think people will be very angry.

You really didn't like the space battle over Coruscant? I thought it wasn't long enough. lol And the lightsaber duel at the end was great but hard to believe without understanding that there's a bunch of heat shielding around everything. That's why Anakin bursts into flames laying on the hillside. That and a bit of lava touching his leg. As for the love between Padme and Anakin, I didn't have anything to gripe about with it. Even the way she dies. I got what GL was going for. He admits that SW pokes fun at itself from time to time. And it's meant to be over-the-top and campy. He wanted it to be like the 30's-40's serials with a little film noir mixed in. And that's what it felt like. I'm a fan of old cinema so I got what he was going for easily. Like in AOTC when they establish Dexter's Diner. Classic. But you have to know older film for that. And the older films were talky and full of long scenes. If you get bored watching old B&W films, you aren't going to like the PT. The only parts about ROTS that I had problems with were the scenes with Palpatine that made it look like Anakin gave him a BJ. Other than that, it was great entertainment. And Grievous is supposed to be a cheesy villain. I bet if you watched the OT and PT dvds with GL's commentary, you'd get them more. I don't like Kirshner(ESB's Director) though. He's too liberal for me.

I don't see how the duel was pitiful. To me, the ANH duel is the only "pitiful" lightsaber duel in the films. And it's only pitiful because it's two old men fighting. lol But Anakin and Obi fighting over lava? Epic. And that's where some of the best memes are! lol

My thing with acting not being the best descriptor of why someone doesn't like a film is because to me, I always know actors are acting. I only suspend disbelief because I want to, not because of the acting or graphics. lol

The reason 7 is going to fail is that it's going to distance itself as more of a reboot than a sequel. Which is like the opposite of JJ's Star Trek. It was more of a sequel than a reboot when you think about it. But SW7 is going to feel so different from both the OT and PT that people who like those are going to be critical of this new trilogy. The only people who will enjoy all 9 will be kids and any adults who have somehow never seen SW. Kids will love this more than SW fans. And not to mention the flawed logic with a lot of the technology and motivations of the story. The dialogue will be bland though. Just listen to the trailers. :)

That's a good idea - watching it with the commentary. I might do that. That would be interesting, to know what he was going for.

And you're right - the dialogue so far I've heard in the trailers sounds pretty awful. Like it was written specifically for the trailers as a marketing ploy, rather than for an actual movie.

You should. Leia(Carrie Fisher) is one of the commentates on the OT. *whistles

Not to mention Ben Burtt and Dennis Muren who worked on sound and effects.The PT has them but no Fisher.

Well and how the Luke lines are from the OT. They could have written new lines and not just relied on the OT's success so much. I mean, that's why they still foolishly used TIE/Ln's(flat wings). Which is lazy and unoriginal.

When it comes out, get ready to hear about all the disappointments. Other than visually on some things. Like the Falcon flying away from the TIEs. That does look good. Those types of shots will be the only thing that's actually liked about the film. "hey we saw the Falcon do some stuff!" kind of reactions. lol :)

You're right, I haven't seen those movies you mentioned. I didn't even know there was a Britney Spears movie. By the way, I didn't say worst of all time, I said "possibly one of" (I was thinking in the bottom 100 Hollywood films or something).

The two main things I hated about ROTS were: a) the action sequences were lame, and b) the progression of the movie wasn't satisfying.

By a) I mean the space battles, which were too confusing and hard to follow, and the lightsaber duel at the end between Obi Wan and Anakin, which I had been getting my hopes up for, and I thought it was just pitiful. I don't know another word for it than that. Lightsaber duels and space battles are one of the main reasons I watch Star Wars movies, so when ROTS failed (or at least I felt it did) on both those counts it left me disappointed with the movie itself.

As for b) I probably can't give you specifics, but it just felt too talky, with not enough going on, and none of the characters really interested me. I just remember being really bored and thinking the movie was about 40-50 minutes too long. Also, I know this is a common refrain, but I think the Anakin/Padme romance was at its worst in Episode III. I was able to go along with their love story in Episode II (because it was portrayed as a forbidden, impossible love, and that's a good plot no matter how painful the dialogue), but I remember that in ROTS I didn't buy their relationship at all, although I couldn't tell you why specifically right now. Also, Anakin's transition to the dark side felt "forced" to me. It felt like it just had to be done because we were up to that part of the movie, but it didn't feel organic or believable. And General Grievous' character seemed more like a comedy character than a villain, and that didn't work for me either.

(The other thing I hated was the Jedi children being murdered. I think that's when I stopped watching the movie the first time.)

But maybe I'm exaggerating a bit. I could have just been in a bad mood when I watched it. That sometimes affects how I view movies. If I see it again (although that's not altogether likely), I may notice details I've missed and have more of an appreciation of it. But as of now, I say Episode I and II were the strongest of the prequels. I think you're right to say the acting quality wasn't all that different between the prequels and the OT, generally.

Thanks for telling me about The Raid movies. They sound good.