Philosoraptor

Who armed Libya? Who armed Iran? Who armed Iraq? Who arms the Palistinians? Who arms Hamas? Who arms Boko Haram? The countries that export terrorism don't buy their weapons from Western NATO countries. . The weaponry comes from Russia. The US made a terrible error arming and training al quada in Afghanistan. . To repel the Russians. That backfired. Who currently supports terror groups? Iran.. Libya used to as well.

No1 supporter of the terrorists is Saudi Arabia and the USA. Islamist terrorists are mostly sunnis, Iran supports some shia groups but they are largely outnumbered by sunni terrorists such as ISIS. With Hamas, I could ask myself, who supports Israel? Answer is: The US. Israel is at least as bad as Hamas, and probably worse than Hamas. Iran is no good,I agree with you. The point is, you just can't accept the fact that the US politics is like shit, just like Iranian politics for example. You can't accept that fact and it is simple as that. I have no need to defend a country like Iran, sharia law is terrible way of governing the country, we agree. But Iran didn't surround the US with it's military bases, the US surrounded Iran. You can see it on the map, go google the US military bases in the world and you'll see that the US completely surrounded Iran, to everybody who is sane, that's a clear message of US intentions. Iran didn't invade Mexico and Canada, your neighbour countries, while the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. It is obvious who is pushing who in this story. You can talk about bad things in the muslim world for as long as you want to, but as long as you do not agree that the US politics is aggressive and wrong, all that talk is pure justifying of that aggression.

Terrorism unfortunately,.. is an unconventional warfare type conflict. The US will never win this war against radical Islam. I do not think the US has the guts to do what's necessary. Our leaders are weak and act on political correctness politics. What would you have the US do after 9/11?

I sure wouldn't have it invading other countries. For start, I would try to stop the funds for the terrorists,and that would be: stop buying Saudi oil. Saudis financed Al Qaeda. Not that the US doesn't do it, but it has Saudi Arabia as it's most important ally in the middle east. How can that be possible? Second thing, I sure as hell wouldn't send weapons to islamic fundamentalists, and the US send it to the rebels in Libya and Syria? How can you have a war against somebody and arm him at the same time? What does Iran have to do with all this? And Iraq? You simply want to skip some facts and that's it. Why did the US invade Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda? I don't know where did you hear that Libya armed terrorists against the US, if it's a conflict that was around 30 years ago, the US was threatening to overthrow Gaddafi's regime at that time, so, if Gaddafi even did support terrorists against the US at that time, he had good reasons. But I didn't hear about that, and actually, Libya never said that it had anything to do with that terrorist act in the west Berlin.

For first, let's put some common sense in this story. No small country will actually attack the US if it's not a self defence. Only an idiot would do that, US can outpower any smaller country in the world. The idea that Gaddafi would want to provoke a conflict with the US is ridiculous. And even if it's not, Gaddafi did not support terrorists in any later years for sure, and those terrorists actually went to war with him, and they were supported by NATO and the US. And when we talk about Hamas as terrorist fraction, it must be considered that Israel occupies Palestinian territory and that Hamas is a legitimately elected Palestinian government. If Israel would stop it's occupation they would solve their problem with 'the terrorists'. Do you condemn Israeli government for their occupation of Palestine?

And do you condemn the US government for anything actually?

I'm trying to show you how that 'war against terror' story doesn't make sense. It is a cover up story for the US attempts of dominating and control of the middle east. When you see the US actions in practice, it is obvious that the US doesn't care about terrorists or democracy. If terrorists suit the US interests, the US supports them. If dictatorships like Saudi Arabia obey the US, they're supported by the US. Problem is when country wants to be independent from the neoliberal elites running the US politics. That's the only problem the US has with other countries at this moment, and then your government makes stories like 'the war on terror' or 'liberating people fro tyrants' and stuff like that, to make your people believe their actions are for the well being of all. While in reality, it is the interest of a very tiny elite that's running your country's politics, and they don't care about your people, just like they don't care about anyone but themselves. And other countries, like Russia, China, Great Britain, Iran, Israel, are the same like that too.

Your 1st paragraph is very accurate. I agree.. the Saudis are not a friend to the US.. and the US has armed the wrong people many times. When Iran took American hostages from the embassy, the US was in support of Iraq in their war against Iran. Irony. Where did you learn English so well? Your command of the language is exceptional.

Heh, I do have autocorrect, that helpes a lot. :D xD But I'm good with English in general, thanks for noticing it. :) I don't know, I guess I have some talents in languages and I meet a lot of foreigners in my countries. I think that's quite important.

About the Saudis and Iran, and other things... I said it in the second comment, maybe you haven't read it, cause I wrote it afterwards. I doubt the US government doesn't know what it does. Saudis are an american ally for long time, and pakistan too, while a lot of pakistani citizens were actually, and still are, with the Talibans. That can't be just a mistake, it's a known fact. The US government doesn't care about the ideals of freedom and democracy, that's obvious. As I said, it's just a story to mask their agenda to the american people. The agenda is putting middle east and other parts of the world under control of the US. And it is done by neoliberal economic and financial elite. It is their interests who are running the US politics.

I have to go.. let's swap emls. My eml address : [email protected].

Ok, mine is [email protected]!

I am on my phone.. hard to type but will reach out to you. Peace is done in similar fashions by governments.. but someone us reach out.. and someone not bit the hand that is extended. You are intelligent, I see this in you. And where we both have different experiences in our lives, we find common ground also. I will reach out soon.. but I am driving now. May God bless your studies

Thank you a lot. You are really a good person friend. I'm touched at this moment. :) I will contact you too, have a good day, and enjoy whatever it is you're doing. :)