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In some areas of the world they execute atheists...and christians still think they're the persecuted ones, why??

In some areas of the world they execute atheists...and christians still think they're the persecuted ones, why?? | THIS IS ATHEIST LAND THAT'S WHERE THE RELIGIOUS LIVE, YOU MUST NEVER GO THERE, THEY WILL KILL YOU, LITERALLY | image tagged in memes,simba shadowy place,atheist,religious,scary | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,540 views 16 upvotes Made by AquilusDomini 10 years ago in fun
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3 ups, 10y,
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Have you not heard of the thousands of Christians being beheaded for refusing to convert to Islam recently??
4 ups, 10y
Yeah, but i put all of the abrahamic religions into the same category of ape-shit crazy. If it's a religion that originated in the middle east, i guarantee some, if not most, of its minions will be violent or at least hateful. I do not excuse extremist Muslims' actions, but i cannot condone the wickedness of extremist christians either who are just as guilty of such atrocities and continuously, in the US (and in Africa which is what this meme references), portray themselves and bigoted, evil, vile human beings that will stop at nothing to hurt others simply to make their opinions the law. Mind you, those are the extremist christians. I have no beef with good, caring, non-bigoted christians or muslims and those do exist a plenty, they just don't get the attention that evil ones do, because the evil ones speak with violence and that of course will get more attention.
2 ups, 10y,
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3 ups, 10y
Lol, well it is generally an atheist religion (some denominations have deities), so it is tempting. Though there are some tenets of buddhism that are not favorable to modern life, it is pretty well rounded and peaceful enough :)
1 up, 10y,
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From the atheistic worldview: Is there something wrong with stardust harming stardust? Blind and purposeless matter bobbing on the edge of the cosmos.
0 ups, 10y,
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When the stardust has formed into beings capable of thought, yes. We are all composed of atoms but what makes living beings different from rocks is the fact we live and know of our thoughts and actions and know of the words and actions of others. We are not blind nor purposeless matter when we develop the ability to think or simply to live. All atoms serve a purpose, just not some silly religious one. Our universe does have its own order, there are laws of physics and laws of biology. There is chaos but there is organized chaos. No magical being makes this order, we are creatures that emerged from an order that existed, one could say we are slaves to the order of the universe (or perhaps a larger multiverse). No other animal species believes in deities (that we know of). You ever wonder why humans do? Perhaps its for manipulation skills and power, so that the few can demand the many to bow down to their wishes and commands. Now from a serial killer stand point, i enjoy watching the droves of idiots slaughter each other mindlessly while the religious say it was done in the name of a deity that doesn't exist :) Brightens my dark dismal atheist days to watch idiots killing the innocent, ya know? Do note my sarcasm.
1 up, 10y,
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So, if you either think or live you have inherent value? Salad taste best while alive, does salad have the same value as you?
Also you said the universe has purpose, organization and governance. We are slaves that emerged from from an extant order? Where did the laws that govern matter come from? What about the matter itself?
0 ups, 10y,
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The order certainly didn't come from some ridiculous anthropomorphized deity because then what would have made the deity? It is entirely possible for nature to produce its own "laws" and it is entirely possible for nature to break them as well, which is likely how this universe came to be. I do not have a degree in physics and thus cannot explain it well enough for you to be satisfied with the answer (though who could explain it well enough for you to be satisfied?). As humans we cannot even fathom how the order of existence works, we try to find out with physics but our minds are very limited, which is one reason why our species invented deities and religion, to explain what could not at the time be explained by science. We have come far enough in science to debunk the existence of deities. If one wants to take a pantheistic view, that would make more sense than all the other ridiculous religious views floating around. In pantheism, the universe itself is god, not some silly deity with human or animal qualities and personalities. The "laws" of physics are simply what we have observed, they are not laws like what a congress passes with bills.

In the order of existence, yes lettuce has the same value as i do or may even have a greater value depending on what comes to eat, live off of, or enjoy it. All things have some form of value, be they plant or animal or even rock. Just because man is too stupid to see the value doesn't mean it is non-existent. The average joe schmoe sees a piece of lettuce as nothing more than salad, an advanced mind sees sustenance, which gives it value, the plant itself valued its existence once, though, once again, we humans may not understand by what mechanism a plant could understand its value. But the plant does value itself or it would not work so hard to survive. An insect sees it as sustenance, which gives it value. The rocks have value because they make up the landscape, build up the planet. If it exists, it has some form of value. Asbestos even has value. Every atom, every electron can be valuable. That said, just because things have obvious value in the grand order of existence does not mean some magical sky creature is making that order exist. Someday, perhaps while man still exists (though probably not), the laws of physics could change, violently and our universe could disappear or give rise to a new one. Please do direct any further questions to a physicist.
1 up, 10y,
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So you claim that the order in the universe could not have come from deity. Also, that nature can create and break laws. I would like for you to explain that. How do you know when nature will break it's laws? Will the future be like the past?
0 ups, 10y,
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I told you to direct further questions to a physicist. One would be able to answer those questions you just asked me. My specialty is the biological sciences, not theoretical physics, astrophysics, or quantum physics. It is entirely possible for nature to make and break its own "rules" which aren't technically even rules, how it goes about doing so is, again, something a physicist could answer. I know only the very top layer of the fact it is possible for the "laws" of physics to change and that physics has debunked the human made deities. Now i have a question for you, can you explain how an anthropomorphized deity could even exist at all and why if its existence were possible, it would care about our speck of dust planet when there are billions upon billions of others in this universe alone?
2 ups, 10y
It is not because we are lovable or deserving of G-d's love, G-d shows his unmerited favor to us humans. G-d is the ultimate standard for love. G-d is love, yet he has more attributes than love. However, he never stops being love.

Humans are the only creation who have a personal relationship with the creator. All creation was made good, but man was very good. Humans are the pinnacle of all creation and favored more than any creation.
0 ups, 10y,
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Also, no one knows when nature will break the guidelines we humans have discovered, we just know it is possible and can happen.
2 ups, 10y,
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You make a claim. It is only reasonable that I ask the basis on which you make the claim. So if the laws of nature are unpredictable, do you have a seatbelt on your computer chair? Just in case gravity quits working since no one know when nature will break the guidelines discovered that we know are possible.
0 ups, 10y,
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This debate is getting ridiculous. What would the point of a seat-belt on a chair be if the chair floats away. Some things are indeed unpredictable but there would likely be subtle or even highly noticeable signs of an impending change. It could happen all at once or very slowly. Again you would need to consult with a physicist about the possibilities. I will not change your mind, you're even one of those folks that's scared to death to spell the capitalized version of "God" with the "o" in place. You're already lost to the religious system and your own personal beliefs. You have no real desire to see my side of the argument or you would indeed look up a good deal of information on physics and find yourself a physicist to explain some of these things. You believe in an anthropomorphized bigoted deity that supposedly lived in the clouds (funny, we invented planes and there's no one living in that misty vapor). You're a creationist and you will find any way to argue with me in an attempt to disprove what i know, knowing that i have limitations because my area of knowledge is not deep physics. Humans are sadistic unpleasant animals prone to violence, what sane deity would invent humans, see the errors of humans, and yet not eliminate them entirely and start all over? If the judeo-christian god did exist, he would be a sadistic piece of trash that would be entirely undeserving of worship. Zeus had better morals. Thor had better morals. Vishnu had better morals. Now i'm going to wrap this up because it is seriously not going to go anywhere because you will not change your mind and i will not be changing mine either.
2 ups, 10y,
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You argue against a straw-man. The g-d you argue against does not exist. G-d created man upright, but man sought out many devices to pleasure the flesh. Sin separates us from G-d. But, Christ died for sinners to reconcile man to him.

You know the creator, he is where you get the morals by which you judge him. Apart from him you have no basis to perform science and no basis for morality.
0 ups, 10y,
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I'm done with you Derpy. I knew you were going to be a rowdy christer from the beginning. You believe in a deity for which there is absolutely no proof whatsoever. By slapping a gender onto your deity you have created an anthropomorphized deity. Keywords there being "you have created". Your deity is what you want it to be. Prior to 6000 years ago your deity did not exist. If you were arguing pantheism instead of ridiculous christianity we might be able to get somewhere but you're arguing for a deity that could not possibly exist outside of your mind. Morality is what you want it to be. It is an opinion that changes the world over. In the middle east men consider it moral to rape women. In some tribes in Africa they find it moral to perform female circumcision. In some areas of the US they find it moral to murder homosexuals and those of non-caucasian races. Your deity (and i specifically mean your interpretation of the judeo-christian deity) has little to nothing to do with morality outside of your own mind. Now, are we done or would you like to attempt once again to make this go on in circles forever?
2 ups, 10y
You claim my deity is immoral (which I refute), then you say "morality is what you want it to be". You refuted yourself point blank.
So by your own standard you have no basis whatsoever to judge anyone's morals.
Can my morality be that I buy a monster truck and drive over people in my way? Or is there some objective standard to hold to? Which is it?

(If you do a short reply and answer the question you won't have to type so much. Then just bring up one point (not a shotgun blast of every argument you can think of) and I'll be glad to discuss. Typing paragraphs online is usually a complete waste. Thanks.)
0 ups, 10y
Does anyone else find it totally f u cked up that this website edits the word r a p e unless you space it out? Wtf?
0 ups, 10y
I said if your deity existed (which in all honesty, it does not exist outside of your mind). It was a hypothetical statement when i said your deity was immoral. Morality is what any human wants it to be, because it does not exist outside of their own minds. In all technicality, there is no objective standard to hold to. Humans have made laws for which there are punishments if the laws get broken (and these too change, an example is when horse stealing was a crime punishable by hanging), but outside of the societies we invent, there is no standard. You could very well find it a nice thing to do to run people over. That is how we have serial killers who find it a nice thing to do to kill people. Their own view of their own morality does not include empathetic feelings. Morality is exactly what your brain wants it to be which is why there are so many opinions and differences on morality across the globe.

I will write however much i feel is necessary. I enjoy writing, do so as a hobby, and am not new to religious debates so there will be epic paragraphs. I have an INTP personality, i must explain things in extreme detail, it is not a fault but it can seem annoying to other people.
1 up, 10y
I'm a Christian, but I'll upvote this for one reason: Some people call themselves "Christians", but they don't live like it. Yes, the religious might literally kill you. (The Spanish Inquisition is a good example.)
1 up, 10y,
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1 up, 10y,
1 reply
learned the hard way
1 up, 10y,
1 reply
Oh yes, i liked that meme so much. Sometimes i think non-atheists just troll websites looking for atheists to be mean too lol. And since when don't they like sexual memes? I've seen so many jiggly boobies GIFs the past few days lol. Though i must note they did not have that many likes or dislikes for that matter.
1 up, 10y,
1 reply
let's make god memes and see if the atheists downvote them! (i can't say why but you know why)
1 up, 10y,
1 reply
Sounds like a plan :D
1 up, 10y,
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did you get my fry meme? my friends in philosophy class got it... people thinking i can't spell "genius"... my math/psychology phd friends loved it too
1 up, 10y,
1 reply
Yes i did and that is why i liked it :D
1 up, 10y,
1 reply
thank you... people seem to be dumb here
1 up, 10y
Lol, we can't call them dumb really, maybe just some are slow to get certain things.
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