Context: the Carbonara is a pun based off “Carbonari” the mafia group. I have an Italian friend whom I used to share many a good pasta pun fusili reasons.
Amongst these was the fact that he used to say “carbonara” goes without ragu, whereas I said it goes with it. So yeh, we have our own pasta mafias. The Carbonara “with” ragu and “without” ragu
I’m also a bit more archaic when it comes talk to them. And terribly childish in terms of puns. We make a joke out of everything that’s happening in the world, especially politics