NY legalized assisted suicide ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

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I hope the Federal government shuts that shit down

same

Hope nobody shows up to do it

If it's terminally ill patients, then yes. Anyone else, no.

It’ll only attract depressed people… same with foreign assisted suicide programs… it’s sad

Can I burn down the programs

No, but you can always vote no to proposed assisted suicide programs in your area.

Imma try the arson tho

No, you’ll go to jail

If the y catch me

No, it’s too risky. If you want to stop it find a class action lawyer and give them this case. Class action lawyer will file a lawsuit to stop the assisted suicide program and you don’t get in trouble for setting it on fire because you didn’t.

Pm me

What’s your @

As I said, only terminally ill patients in pain.

It’s probably not though, so I’m concerned

I do not disagree that it is horrible.

It’s both horrible and unconstitutional. The government should ban it.

The federal constitution does not stop the states from doing that. However, a federal LAW could, they just can't CHANGE. New York law. I think there should bd such a law too,

Using that logic, the government couldn’t ban state segregation laws. I would argue that you actually can ban it on constitutional grounds. It may be a difficult case to argue, but definitely possible and constitutional. Assisted suicide should be banned.

That would be unconstitutional.

No?!

Yes. The feds can't interfere with state law like that.

The state law is murder.

And that is perfectly within its rights to do.

No?! It’ll just kill depressed people!

The constitution prevents the feds from doing that, not the states. It also expressly forbids the feds to do what you are asking, because then they could do that to any law.

It prevents any form of American government from violating the rights of the American people.

Federal law can override state law, but can't change it. And there is no federal law against it. Additionally, just because the feds probably couldn't doesn't mean the states can't. Also, don't take this as me supporting this law, I just think we should fight it the right way.

Nice argument senator. Now how about you back it up with a source?

That is within their rights.

No, the law is the law. The Constitution is the Constitution.

Using that logic, the federal government couldn’t ban segregation laws. The federal government can “interfere with state law like that” if the rights of the people are threatened.

They can't change new york law, but they could make a law that could maybe override it. That is the corrct course, to my knowledge.

Like when the one state forgot to ban slavery, you still couldn't have slaves there because of federal law.

Can states legally override federal laws placed to protect citizen’s rights? I don’t think the founding fathers would agree with you.

No, I said federal law could override the state law, banning suicide without breaking rules. Read my comments.

I think you could ban legalizing assisted suicide on Constitutional grounds though. Completely within the rules.

Did you read anything I said? The constitution is rules ONLY FOR THE FEDS. However, federal law may fly, we could try that. Or just yelling at NY.

That would be unconstitutional.

No it wouldn’t, where in the Constitution does it say we should help people commit suicide?!

The constitution prevents the federal government from interfering with state law like that, is what it does.

I would argue that the law is murder, facilitating depressed people’s suicides. Thus violating the people’s right to life.

I agree it is unethical. However, it does not go outside the state's rights to govern itself.

The rights of the state end when they infringe on the rights of the people.

Not really.

Then do you think states can infringe on the rights of the people then? I’m confused by your logic, or lack thereof.

It's not my logic, it's a fact.

It’s not, the Constitution gives the people a right to life, and assisted suicide takes advantage of depressed people and facilitates their untimely deaths.

And don't twist the argument that way.

I’m not twisting an argument dude, calm tf down

Yes, you are, by making the constitution sound worse.

No, you’re just rude. We have conflicting opinions on how the Constitution should be applied here, it’s not the end of the world.

Oh, by the way, I did some more research, and you might be at least partially right, I'll give ya that. But I don't want another debate with you, so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah. I hate the idea of just legalizing something that would enable so many suicides. Hopefully it’ll be banned, a ban would save so many lives.

Agreed. You might have a hard time banning it on constitutional grounds (the government isn't prohibiting people from living), but I hope someone finds a way to ban it.

Hopefully it’ll be banned, it’s inhumane and will kill so many

I'm done here. When my opponent will not be rational, I do not argue.

Just because I disagree doesn’t make me irrational, but whatever.

No, your logical fallacies and refusal to accept them do.

The Constitution says we have the right to live, assisted suicide is going to kill people.

The caps lock is because you didn't seem to listen on normal typing

It’s not that I’m not listening, I simply disagree with your opinion. Don’t be rude.

You refuse to acknowledge or refute my argument with anything more than a copy and paste response. You twist my words, the words of others. You refuse to acknowledge simple facts. Therefore, you have made civil debate impossible. Do not contact me again until you are ready to debate at a maturity level closer to what is required.

I’m mature, you’re the one losing your cool. I’m not twisting your words, I’m just making my point and stating my case. Your insecure attitude is showing like a plumber’s backside, maybe work on yourself a bit.

The constitution says that the FEDERAL government can't stop our right to live.

Why shouldn’t it apply to states? It applies to citizens and the government alike. Nobody is above the law.

BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR, AND IS NOT WHAT THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF SAYS. TAKE THE FACTS OR LEAVE THEM.

Why the caps lock? You’re sort of rude mate.